mix down = fuzzy

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ok so im using nuendo v2.0 and my issue is after recording and mixing my project i go and mix my song down. when i goto listen to my wav or mp3 i loose quality significantly. i wouldnt mind if i lost alittle bit of quality but its to the point where i loose alot of volume and get alot of Hiss in my recording. i find i need to turn up the volume a great deal when listening to the mix down and when doing so the fuzziness is even more audible.

im no pro at using this software but im slowly teaching my self, its just very disapointing when you can listen to your stuff in nuendo and can be very happy with it and mix it down and listen to it and be embarssed you produced it.

if i find a place to host the files i will so you can hear even tho theres is no way to hear what it exactly sounds like when played in nuendo.


any help would be greatly apreciated

:dustin
 
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If you are using a tape emulator or some sort of saturation plugin (magneto for example) in the master section, that could do it. What bit/samplerate are you mixing down to? What format? Are you using dither? For a $1200.00+ software, there should not be any deterioration whatsoever.
 
Most likely this is due to bitrate mismatch. If say your project is set at 24 or 32 bit, and you export the file at 16 bit without dithering you'll get a lot of quantization noise.
 
frankieballsss said:
You might have a sample rate issue.

Samplerate problems would be imediately noticeable. Either the file would play too fast or too slow. A bitrate above 16 would not even play in a standard media player but yes, as it was pointed out, not dithering would cause some noise issues.
 
heres the thing i dont know to much about the sample rates and such

i believe i recorded at 32 bit .96khz

i duno what i should originaly set my recording as nor do i know what to export as

iv allways exported as mp3 320kbit/s 44.100 khz

i need to get my hands on a decent tutorial, its amazing i make a decent recording with it but get stumped on getn a decent mixdown

:<

thanx for the help

:dustin
 
First of all, why are you mixing down to mp3? Do you want your tunes to be compressed? Why don't you mixdown to .wav like the rest of the audio comunity, then convert to mp3 when you need to?

Have you considered the manual?

32bit float/96k is a pretty high setting. Your computer must be pretty powerful. That's great. When you mixdown do you dither? This is the third time someone has asked you. It's an important step when you convert your files to a consumer format.

This is what I really cannot fathom. Why did you spend $1200.00+ on a piece of software that appears to be well beyond your league? Why not start with one of the more affordable versions like Cubase SX3 at only $600.00?

I'm sorry but you're avoiding the questions that should help you. Please consider answering them. Right now it's all starting to smell fishy to me Billy.
 
im sorry,

i didnt realize i didnt reply to that question. and the answer is i dont know what dithering is. im new to all this :(

i have mixed down to wav as well but it sounds the same regardless
normally id export to wav and then use rrazor lame and encode to a VBR mp3 so i can send to my friends

my pc is somewhat powerful i guess
asus Mb
amd sempron 2.1ghz
1gb ram
4hds = 611gb space

id like alot better pc tho new mobo and processor soon

all im tryn to do is have fun and record..
 
ourownwar said:
all im tryn to do is have fun and record..

So you went out and spent $1200.00 on software? Somehow that reeks of peg legs and eye patches to me. I'm sorry. You are on your own. :rolleyes:
 
hueseph said:
Samplerate problems would be imediately noticeable. Either the file would play too fast or too slow. A bitrate above 16 would not even play in a standard media player but yes, as it was pointed out, not dithering would cause some noise issues.

Not neccesarily. At least in pro tools, I've had issues where ive bounced shit that sounded fine, but during playback after bouncing sounded either distorted/too quick/too slow because of bit rate issues.
 
Bit rate or samplerate? At any rate the problem was apparent when you listened back. Maybe I should restate then? Samplerate issues will be immediately apparent during playback from a consumer format. The sample will play back slow or fast depending on whether the mixdown is greater or lesser than the standard 44100hz. But since most people record at samplerates above 44100, the result is usually a file that plays too slow.

Bit rate issues will be apparent by a percieved "clipping" or grittyness if no dither is added during mix down to a consumer format.
 
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