Midi Synthesizer/Sonar 6 Issue

[Kamikaze X]

I have my Fantom X hooked up to my PC and I'm using it through Sonar. Problem is that now I find myself always having to make a seperate audio track and having to put the input echo on everytime I want to hear my midi. Back on Sonar 5 I don't remember ever having to do that. What makes it frustrating is that everytime I make any kind of change like a patch change I always have to go down to my audio track and turn the input echo off and then back on in order for it to start playing the audio again. Is there a way to go around having to always make an audio track and have my keyboard sound route to the monitors automatically?

Here's my configuration by the way:

I have my fantom hooked up via usb and I have the roland audio outs going into my layla 3g ins.

The Midi Track

Input set to "Roland Fantom X - Omni"

Output is set to "Roland Fantom X"

The Audio Track

The input is set to the layla input that the fantom is plugged into.

The output is set to master

 

[dachay2tnr]

If I understand your set-up correctly, you are going to need to set up an audio track in order to hear your keyboards audio out. Right now it appears you are triggering the sound by inputting midi and using a DXi for your synthesizer.

What you can do is to set-up a midi track with the input set to Roland Phantom X Omni (as you already appear to have done). Use this track to "record" the midi (assuming this is what you want to do).

Then set-up an audio track with the input set to your Layla, and the output set to wherever your speakers are connected to.

When you play, you will "hear" the audio track with the sounds from your Roland, while you will "record" the midi track. You won't have to use Input Echo, unless you plan to use any realtime software FX on the audio input.

Make sense?

 

[Kamikaze X]

If I understand your set-up correctly, you are going to need to set up an audio track in order to hear your keyboards audio out. Right now it appears you are triggering the sound by inputting midi and using a DXi for your synthesizer.

What you can do is to set-up a midi track with the input set to Roland Phantom X Omni (as you already appear to have done). Use this track to "record" the midi (assuming this is what you want to do).

Then set-up an audio track with the input set to your Layla, and the output set to wherever your speakers are connected to.

When you play, you will "hear" the audio track with the sounds from your Roland, while you will "record" the midi track. You won't have to use Input Echo, unless you plan to use any realtime software FX on the audio input.

Make sense?

You just described exactly how I have it hooked uip now...and I was see if there was a work around to that.

 

[dachay2tnr]

You just described exactly how I have it hooked uip now...and I was see if there was a work around to that.

That's way it has to work if you want to "hear" the audio output from you keyboard. (Although I don't see why would need to have Input Echo enabled.)

If you want to use something else to produce the sound you could approach it differently. For ex., you could use a DXi, and route the MIDI output to the DXi. However, this will still require an audio track (with the DXi patched to it), and it will require low latency settings in order to avoid an echo.

There is no inherent sound in MIDI. It has to be synthesized by something. The choices are essentially the MIDI device (Roland in your case), a software synthesizer (DXi or VSTi), or a sound card with built in MIDI synth.

 

[Kamikaze X]

That's way it has to work if you want to "hear" the audio output from you keyboard. (Although I don't see why would need to have Input Echo enabled.)

If you want to use something else to produce the sound you could approach it differently. For ex., you could use a DXi, and route the MIDI output to the DXi. However, this will still require an audio track (with the DXi patched to it), and it will require low latency settings in order to avoid an echo.

There is no inherent sound in MIDI. It has to be synthesized by something. The choices are essentially the MIDI device (Roland in your case), a software synthesizer (DXi or VSTi), or a sound card with built in MIDI synth.

I know that midi only transmits data...what I'm trying to figure out is if there is any other way to direct sound directly out to my monitors instead of having to make an au9dio track. I need to see if there is input monitoring on my card.

 

[dachay2tnr]

I know that midi only transmits data...what I'm trying to figure out is if there is any other way to direct sound directly out to my monitors instead of having to make an au9dio track. I need to see if there is input monitoring on my card.

Yeah, you got it. If your card allows to channel the input directly to the output, that will work.

I'm not familiar with your soundcard, but it's a pretty common feature. Sorry I didn't think of that earlier. I do it with mics all the time in order to eliminate any latency.