Mics in the studio...help...

[TimPop]

The place we plan on recording has the following mics.
Mic's:
Audix CX-111
3 Audix D2's
Audix D4
Audix D1
Audix D3
4 Sure SM57
Sure Beta 52
Sure SM 58
Octava MC 012-01
Octava MK-219
Audio-technica DR 3700
Senheiser MD 735


My drummer is stating that these are not "good" mics ? Please also keep in mind this is a 30 per hour studio.

Would think ? good or bad ?

 

[boingoman]

Well, with those mics and a good engineer you should be able to get a good product, all else being equal. Definitely a killer drum recording. What is the rest of the equipment? That is going to be at least as big a factor. Is this going to be some kind of demo?

 

[Track Rat]

They're not fantastic mics but they're up to the job. The drummer himself would have a MUCH greater part in the oevrall sound of the recording than these mics.

 

[TimPop]

Thanks..That helps out alot. Here is the rest of the gear.
Guitar equipment:
Marshall JCM 900 (50 watt lead head)
Marshall JCM 2000
Marshall guitar cab JCM 800 Lead-1960
Gibson Les Paul Studio (1990's)
Fender Telecaster (USA)
Various pedals

Bass equipment:
3 various Fender Jazz Bass's (USA)
Ampeg classic SVT tube head
Ampeg pro 3 head
Gallien Krueger 800 RB head
2 mesa boogie 4x10 cab's
3 sunn 4x10 cabs
Line 6 Bass pod

Recording equipment:
1 Tascam DA-88
3 Tascam DA-38
Soundcraft 32 channel Ghost mixing board
Various compressor's by
Art, DBX, Alesis, and Beringer
Various effects
T.C. electronics Finalizer
Yamaha NS 10 studio monitors
Mastering done with Wavlab
Sonar
cubase


We actually recorded here before and where very happy, The guy is a great producer and engineer. That was with the old drummer...The new drummer knows more about recording, etc....We are putting it out has independent release.

www.bombpops.com is the webpage.

here is

 

[lanterns]

more things depend on the end result than the mics, which seem like an alright setup.

 

[DJL]

The place we plan on recording has the following mics.
Mic's:
Audix CX-111
3 Audix D2's
Audix D4
Audix D1
Audix D3
4 Sure SM57
Sure Beta 52
Sure SM 58
Octava MC 012-01
Octava MK-219
Audio-technica DR 3700
Senheiser MD 735


My drummer is stating that these are not "good" mics ? Please also keep in mind this is a 30 per hour studio.

Would think ? good or bad ?

He's right about those mics being cheap budget mics... but they're not bad mics unless they're broken.

 

[spankenstein]

If you were happy then why even question it. There's nothign "top notch" there but all usable and if your previous recordings were good then they will be good.

 

[Big Kenny]

Nothing there I would want to sing into, but some very usable drum and cab stuff

 

[Strange Leaf]

For drums, these mics are fine...especially as he succeded in making you happy before. The alternative could be to go to somone with better mics and possibly lesser skills?

I agree with Big Kenny though... what is supposed to be the vocal mic?

 

[Beltrom]

Shouldn't he be able to get workable vocals with either the Audix CX-111 or Octava MK-219?
And of course he always has the Shure's...

 

[Strange Leaf]

I ain't familiar with the Audix CX-111, but I wouldn't use a MK-219 as main vocal mic in any studio. He needs to add a few vocal-oriented LDC's IMO. Otherwise, all in all, he has a good workable setup.

 

[chessrock]

We actually recorded here before and where very happy, The guy is a great producer and engineer....The new drummer knows more about recording, etc....

Ooh boy. Drummers. Well, you know what they say about "a little knowlege." Honestly, the part you just said about having recorded there and being happy, etc. is what matters. This is a perfect example of where you're paying for the experience and skill of the engineer to deliver an end product . . . and if he can get great sounds, does it matter whether he's doing it with Telefunkens or if he's doing it with Mr. Microphones?

Give me the guy with cheap mics and great recordings for 30 bucks an hour any day over the guy with a drool-worthy mic collection who can't make a decent mix to save his life.

 

[acorec]

Thanks..That helps out alot. Here is the rest of the gear.
Guitar equipment:
Marshall JCM 900 (50 watt lead head)
Marshall JCM 2000
Marshall guitar cab JCM 800 Lead-1960
Gibson Les Paul Studio (1990's)
Fender Telecaster (USA)
Various pedals

Bass equipment:
3 various Fender Jazz Bass's (USA)
Ampeg classic SVT tube head
Ampeg pro 3 head
Gallien Krueger 800 RB head
2 mesa boogie 4x10 cab's
3 sunn 4x10 cabs
Line 6 Bass pod

Recording equipment:
1 Tascam DA-88
3 Tascam DA-38
Soundcraft 32 channel Ghost mixing board
Various compressor's by
Art, DBX, Alesis, and Beringer
Various effects
T.C. electronics Finalizer
Yamaha NS 10 studio monitors
Mastering done with Wavlab
Sonar
cubase


We actually recorded here before and where very happy, The guy is a great producer and engineer. That was with the old drummer...The new drummer knows more about recording, etc....We are putting it out has independent release.

www.bombpops.com is the webpage.

here is

This guy has good equipment. There is no reason why he can't make a great recording if he has the skill. I have heard (and done recordings myself) that sound great with much less.

 

[Sklathill]

So he doesn't have big condensers...well, actually, that is pretty lacking, a few killer LDCs...

But the Audix stuff on there is perfectly fine, even great. I'm not partial to that particular Oktava LDC, though...

But, man, if you've recorded there with good results, I don't think your drummer should stop you. it's not what you have, but how you use it.

 

[mrface2112]

those mics and the board are definitely capable of making an excellent recording. of more concern are the room, the engineer, the drummer, his kit and most importantly whether it's properly tuned.


and i mean, it's a $30/hr studio.......you're lucky to find a Ghost in a $30/hr studio.....there's only so much you can expect when you're shelling out that little money. you can't expect neumanns, telefunkens, neves and api's in a $30/hr studio.


cheers,
wade

 

[mrface2112]

those mics and the board are definitely capable of making an excellent recording. of more concern are the room, the engineer, the drummer, his kit and most importantly whether it's properly tuned.


and i mean, it's a $30/hr studio.......you're lucky to find a Ghost in a $30/hr studio.....there's only so much you can expect when you're shelling out that little money. you can't expect neumanns, telefunkens, neves and api's in a $30/hr studio.


cheers,
wade