micing the modern high-gain metal rig, need help

[Cloneboy Studio]

It's my experience that getting a really fat, hi-fi guitar sound recorded hinges pretty strongly on the mixer preamp and/or the digital conversion process. That being said, don't discount the effects that the room may have--although you have stated you like how the guitar sounds 'in the room.'

In general I agree that generally it is pretty expensive and difficult to catch the sound of the amp 'in the room' 100%. Most of the guitar sounds in the room sound nothing like the recorded signal...

So I have my clients sit in the control room while I futz with their amp, mic placement, preamp and so on until we get a sound "off the board" that sounds the way they want it. Sometimes they are horrified when they go into the room and hear what the amp sounded like (usually because I turned the bass down and mids up, and rolled off the highs a bit... plus turned down the pre gain and oomphed the master gain).

 

[Wireneck]

Tubedude-dude you have any clips up with the 441? I've been itching to pick one up for drums but if I can make myself think that it will get some use on guitar I might be able to justify the used price.

 

[eedude]

My only inclination is to say:

IF your setup sounds Godlike as is, then get a mic that will record it transparently. A small condenser comes to mind.

I said tone of god, not tone of God. If I had the tone of God, well why the hell would I need you guys ;-)

Hey guys, this is a cool forum compared to other less, shall we say, harmonious ones. I’m liking the legitimate input and the snob factor is pretty damn low.

Thanks,

Joe

 

[Cloneboy Studio]

I said tone of god, not tone of God. If I had the tone of God, well why the hell would I need you guys ;-)

With recording the way it is... you can have the tone of all the greek gods and a hebrew one as well... and all it takes is one bad link in the chain to turn it into a buzzing mousefart of mediocrity.

 

[tubedude]

Tubedude-dude you have any clips up with the 441? I've been itching to pick one up for drums but if I can make myself think that it will get some use on guitar I might be able to justify the used price.

The 441 is my go-to mic of choice on almost everything most times, if I can get it on it. Its a great mic, does wonderfully on guitars, bass cabs, floor toms, snare sometimes (the rejection is incredible for snare) vocals are great too. Its an all around mic, and it sucks on nothing, sounds great on most things. I would not be sad if I had nothing but 441's. In fact, I would never complain, except when they get hit by drummers. They are a tad big, so placement is occasionally impossible on some snares. Getcha one. It needs a nice hi-gain preamp.
I wont have online samples of this project til its done.

 

[tubedude]

Oh yeah, its an old school kick drum mic too. Does great there. I just dont like it being in there for some reason. Bothers me. Skeered.
Supposedly cant hurt it, but, skeered.