Mic placement for vocal recording

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Hey guys..I was wondering if i should record my vocals in the center of the room or in the corner?
And something else about accoustic treatment..I have a reflection filter but the mic is too close to the filter cause of his construstion
But if i turn it arround it is too far from the filter lets say 50 cm..Close is somewhere too 5 cm..which is better?
And something else..I put an accoustic treatment that came with my microfone se 2200 ii c up to the reflection filter and a coat above is this right?

This is the sound that i am getting
Read All About It part 3 - Emeli Sande (Acoustic male Cover
 
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Not an answer to your question, but the edits are really obvious in this vocal take.
It's probably not so much how you cut/edit the takes, but how you come in strong with your overdubs.

My advice would be to start each overdub a few lines earlier than you need so you can trim off the unnatural entrances.
 
Is it a real sE Reflexion filter or one of the many cheap imitations. If a cheap imitation, most of them aren't worth having--they don't do a proper job which is why they're cheap. Since you mention an sE2200 I'll assume you have the real thing as part of a package deal.

If it's the real thing, for best results you need to follow the set up instructions very carefully. Basically this means positioning the mic so the diaphragm is directly in line with the front edges of the filter. Even an inch or two can make a difference. The mount should have a sliding clamp assembly that lets you position the mic exactly.

As for your position in the room, when using the filter, I'd stand relatively near on wall but choose a wall that's not too reflective. In front of thick curtains is good, in front of book shelves with lots of paperbacks also works--you'll have to figure out what you have in your room. If worst comes to worst, hang a duvet or movers blanket over a curtain rod behind you. Frankly, I'd avoid both the "centre" and "corner" positions you mention.

Edited to add: just noticed you mentioned a "coat above the filter". If you mean you're draping a coat over the top of the filter, NO! This will make it sound all "boxy".

BTW, I really like your voice--you may want a bit of EQ to add clarity in the upper mids but not bad at all. Maybe a bit of EQ cut on the piano in the mids (just 3 or 4 dB) to make more space for the vocal.
 
Its the bone reflection filter..In some how i think i works a bit but not too much!..The absorber that came with my microfone in the shape of eggs and above the coat is good or no?..Its like a "home" a shelter..Its a wood coat above the reflection filter as it falls down
 
Your english problems makes it hard to understand what you are saying - can you post a picture or two? The video doesn't show any reflection filters, just your pop filter.

The vocal sounds good in overall tone. Some sibilance, try some of the tips suggested in the threads you can find here (slight angle to the mic, pencil trick ...
 
I don't personally know the T-bone imitation of the sE filter but I suspect it's probably a case of "you get what you pay for". I've yet to see one of the cheap imitations that worked nearly as well as the more expensive originals. Just because it's curved and has foam does NOT make it the same.

Based on the photo on the Thomann site, I'd still try the sE instructions and put the mic so the diaphragm is directly in line with the front edges of the filter.

...and no coat. The open top is part of the design and closing it in will give a more boxy effect--or at least it would on the real sE filter.
 
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Yup. Get rid of the coat and if that's an extra bit of foam you wedged in there that should go too. Use that sliding mount so the mic is level with the front edge of the filter and the mic diaphragm is about in the middle vertically.

If you want to use the coat and foam, put them behind you!
 
the mic is level with the front edge of the filter and the mic diaphragm is about in the middle vertically
What do you mean?..Is not right like this?

I get nice sound with the coat
 
If that's true then it's fine. However, your first post said the mic was position back inside the filter and your photo shows the shock mount practically touching the back of the filter, nowhere near the front edge.

Use the coat if you like but it (and that extra foam) will be giving you a more boomy, boxy sound than the filter is designed for.

You asked advice, we gave it. You can use it or not.
 
ok thanks!..I put the coat cause it has more ambience the room like this
i will try denoiser from izotope rx..I hope it will work!
 
I dont like something in the sound that im taking ..This mic has -10 switch pad..In 0 the voice is more fuller more bassier but it has more noize..So thats why i use the coat!..And the video i posted is in -10db..But i like more in 0!..Its like a nice studio!..
Something more..Maybe the latency is a problem..I configured in pro tools in 128 buffer and 64 to the asio settings buffer..What should i change for better performance?..Memory cpu..Disk?..Could i go in 64 in pro tools settings if i upgrade?..Cause now my sound is not playing anything when i turn the setting in 64
 
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