Gidge
Lapdance Test Dummy
Gibs, i love you man!!!!
Gidge
Lapdance Test Dummy
Moderator, pleeze move this thread to the "How To Fuck One's Self" forum......
as a side note, is there a "Fucking Yourself for Dummies" book out yet?....
as a side note, is there a "Fucking Yourself for Dummies" book out yet?....
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Clive Hugh
New member
Hey, this thread sure beats the hell out of watching Sunday afternoon TV, and I got two Strats, a '84 Jap reissue of '61 and a US Standard. They are both brilliant but have been worked on extensively by me. But the Jap sounds way better( what a bastard) but the US plays so well its a dream.
monty
Banned
I bought a Mexican yesterday (Saturday). I'll be trading it in on an American Fat Strat Monday. Another $500 but what are ya gonna do?
64Firebird
New member
Why isn't there a littlle face thats pulling out it's hair?
Gidge
Lapdance Test Dummy
Monty,
Ive played a few Mexican Strats that play as good or better than most American Strats....its all a crapshoot......
Ive played a few Mexican Strats that play as good or better than most American Strats....its all a crapshoot......
monty
Banned
You should look in the places I've been looking...I still haven't found any Mex's that come close. I'm looking at all new stuff though. Maybe that's the difference?
cominginsecond
Decentralized Media Mogul
The little tele-strat I just acquired plays as good for me as any American made instruments I've played. It doesn't sound as good, but the difference is pretty minimal. On the other hand, some of the mexi-mades I've played at guitar center are absolute crap. Like Gidge says, it's a crapshoot. I guess the thing to keep in mind here is that, if you're thinking about buying a mexi-made Fender, it's absolutely essential to extensively demo the exact guitar you're going to buy.
monty
Banned
This old Squire 2 from Korea is as good as this Mex, and the neck is thinner and just feels better. Maybe I'll just put a new pick-up and nut on the Squire.
jimistone
long standing member
"The little tele-strat I just acquired plays as good for me as any American made instruments I've played. It doesn't sound as good, but the difference is pretty minimal. On the other hand, some of the mexi-mades I've played at guitar center are absolute crap. Like Gidge says, it's a crapshoot. I guess the thing to keep in mind here is that, if you're thinking about buying a mexi-made Fender, it's absolutely essential to extensively demo the exact guitar you're going to buy."
i would never buy a guitar without extensive demoing
i would never buy a guitar without extensive demoing
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69'vette
New member
The best Strat I ever played bar none was one of the first Squier Strats that came out of Japan in the mid 80's. It was absolutely beautiful and sounded great. Felt like a dream. It was used, for sale at Guitar Center for around $150. Like a complete idiot I listened to a guitarist friend who gave me the whole "Buy American dude, these suck!" I'm a bass player, so I couldn't justify spending the bucks for an American strat and I just forgot about it. What a mistake! Now I've got old American and new Japanese Fender Basses, an '88 American Tele, two '76 T-Bird basses, a beat to shit 70's Guild Jumbo, and a few Ibanez lawsuit copies. I love 'em ALL. Don't give a rats ass where they were made, but I'm STILL pissed about not picking up that Squier! The moral of the story is; When that little voice inside you says, "This is the one" LISTEN TO IT! Don't buy for resale/collector vaue, don't buy for status, buy because you love THAT guitar. You'll be glad you did.
By the way, If it weren't for UNIONS and all the crap they've pulled in the past 60 years, there wouldn't BE any need to ship manufacturing out of the country. It's the unions and government intervention that ruined things. I'd like to see how long a union worker could keep up next to someone that had to actually work to keep their job...
By the way, If it weren't for UNIONS and all the crap they've pulled in the past 60 years, there wouldn't BE any need to ship manufacturing out of the country. It's the unions and government intervention that ruined things. I'd like to see how long a union worker could keep up next to someone that had to actually work to keep their job...
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69'vette
New member
At least the crap between my ears allows me to think, act, and spell for myself...
Unions never got anybody anything they couldn't have gotten for themselves if they used the brains and abilities they were given by God. They did however get a hell of a lot for the union bosses and their cronies at the expense of those same union members...
You can keep your collective, c7. They're about as useful these days as Lenin's cold, green corpse. I'll stick with trusting my own abilities, thank you very much...
Unions never got anybody anything they couldn't have gotten for themselves if they used the brains and abilities they were given by God. They did however get a hell of a lot for the union bosses and their cronies at the expense of those same union members...
You can keep your collective, c7. They're about as useful these days as Lenin's cold, green corpse. I'll stick with trusting my own abilities, thank you very much...
Evildick
New member
Must be the exception c7
In my limited exposure to a shipyard union here in Hawaii, they must be black and white compared to the one that you are associated with. I'm not giving you shit, because your earlier post described drastic differences. I had limited exposure to the Puget Sound Naval Shipyard union and I have to tell you those are a straight up bunch of guys for the most part. Here in Hawaii, people milk the union and it's benefits for all it's worth. I'm talking sit on your ass 6 hours out of the day and then finish the job between 1 and 3. Oh yeah, if it looks like a big job, submit paperwork to ensure that you get that good 'ol OT on the weekend. I have no problem buying American if it means that the people building what I'm buying worked just as hard as I do at my job and the quality is there. I'm not going to be simple minded and say I won't buy overseas just because it was made overseas. If I see a similar product in terms of quality, I will definitely buy American, but otherwise I'm not going to dump my hard earned cash into a piece of crap just so that I can say I bought it here.
Unions are a great thing to the honest, hard working individual. The problem arises when you get lazy bastards abusing the workers rights that were developed for the sole reason to prevent slave labor in a sense and workers being able to support their famalies. I see where you are coming from c7sus and I can sympathize what you have been through. For the last eight years I have been seperated from my family, usually more than 250 days out of each year and it sucks. Well, I'm done with my political rant here.
Dick
In my limited exposure to a shipyard union here in Hawaii, they must be black and white compared to the one that you are associated with. I'm not giving you shit, because your earlier post described drastic differences. I had limited exposure to the Puget Sound Naval Shipyard union and I have to tell you those are a straight up bunch of guys for the most part. Here in Hawaii, people milk the union and it's benefits for all it's worth. I'm talking sit on your ass 6 hours out of the day and then finish the job between 1 and 3. Oh yeah, if it looks like a big job, submit paperwork to ensure that you get that good 'ol OT on the weekend. I have no problem buying American if it means that the people building what I'm buying worked just as hard as I do at my job and the quality is there. I'm not going to be simple minded and say I won't buy overseas just because it was made overseas. If I see a similar product in terms of quality, I will definitely buy American, but otherwise I'm not going to dump my hard earned cash into a piece of crap just so that I can say I bought it here.
Unions are a great thing to the honest, hard working individual. The problem arises when you get lazy bastards abusing the workers rights that were developed for the sole reason to prevent slave labor in a sense and workers being able to support their famalies. I see where you are coming from c7sus and I can sympathize what you have been through. For the last eight years I have been seperated from my family, usually more than 250 days out of each year and it sucks. Well, I'm done with my political rant here.
Dick
philboyd studge
New member
Some of my earliest memories were of the early 50's Southern California country dance halls where my dad would rag on the fact they were playing a 'stick' guitar. Sure they stuck out in the mix, but I liked them.
The strat I play now is an '86 Japanese one with a locking nut and micro tuners and all kinds of crap. I like it a lot. I played a '59 awile back and liked it too. It had better feel but didn't stay in tune as well. They're still stick guitars.
The strat I play now is an '86 Japanese one with a locking nut and micro tuners and all kinds of crap. I like it a lot. I played a '59 awile back and liked it too. It had better feel but didn't stay in tune as well. They're still stick guitars.
Evildick
New member
If third world countries put out better quality merchandise in two hours of work vice that on the mainland, I'll buy foreign. That's what's known as competition. They are working cheaper and producing a better product. Only a fool would pay more money for a lesser product for more money. I'm not a consumer who's sole purpose is to support American made products. I go to the store and look for a product that doesn't work like a piece of shit.
So how are those Rode (australian.chinese) mics working for you? I'm not here to argue who should buy what from where. I like to see diversity in the products and paramount quality in manufacturing. It's a tradeoff you have too make without falling off the slim fence.
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c7sus quote form the mic forum:
Ok, so I gave it a try.....
I got from the diagram that the mic bodies are 110 degrees to each other, so that puts the capsules at 70 degrees face to face.... right? The mics are an NTV and an NT2. I'm recording a 1985 Martin D-45 with light strings that are fairly worn.....
Anyway, I started at 2 feet with the faders set at unity and trim up about 3-4 dB for the NTV and up about 9-10 dB for the NT2. Bummer that the NTV is so much hotter...... all the EQ is set flat.
Anyway, the first pass I finally made was about 18" out with the mics above the soundhole angled down toward it. I got a fairly "strong" signal through but a lot of harshness which I am assuming is from all the gain on the Mackie pres.....
So I'm a bit disappointed right now..... so now what? The guitar sounds pretty "honky" too in the mids...... is it the mics or the placement or a combination of both? Hell, maybe that's just what the guitar sounds like.... I've got a VC6Q too, which allows a lot more gain without harshness..... but alas only one of those......
I'm thinking the next thing is close miking with the hotter mic behind the bridge and the NT2 at the 14th fret.....
Any suggestions?
So how are those Rode (australian.chinese) mics working for you? I'm not here to argue who should buy what from where. I like to see diversity in the products and paramount quality in manufacturing. It's a tradeoff you have too make without falling off the slim fence.
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c7sus quote form the mic forum:
Ok, so I gave it a try.....
I got from the diagram that the mic bodies are 110 degrees to each other, so that puts the capsules at 70 degrees face to face.... right? The mics are an NTV and an NT2. I'm recording a 1985 Martin D-45 with light strings that are fairly worn.....
Anyway, I started at 2 feet with the faders set at unity and trim up about 3-4 dB for the NTV and up about 9-10 dB for the NT2. Bummer that the NTV is so much hotter...... all the EQ is set flat.
Anyway, the first pass I finally made was about 18" out with the mics above the soundhole angled down toward it. I got a fairly "strong" signal through but a lot of harshness which I am assuming is from all the gain on the Mackie pres.....
So I'm a bit disappointed right now..... so now what? The guitar sounds pretty "honky" too in the mids...... is it the mics or the placement or a combination of both? Hell, maybe that's just what the guitar sounds like.... I've got a VC6Q too, which allows a lot more gain without harshness..... but alas only one of those......
I'm thinking the next thing is close miking with the hotter mic behind the bridge and the NT2 at the 14th fret.....
Any suggestions?
jimistone
long standing member
"Obviously God must not like all those poor devils because He plainly shortchanged them on brains and abilities. What else could account for their sorry lot in this life?"
which is a sorrier lot in life....working from daylight till dark in a sweat factory or sitting on your ass in the USA and letting the taxpayers foot the bill
i don't think that just because someone is under a repressive government that keeps them down....that it translates into they got shortchanged on brains and abilities. every country has an intelligent productive part of society and a unintelligent non-productive part of society. in the USA the unintelligent non-productive part of society sits on their asses, has babies, and scams the government for a living. in other countrys the unitelligent non-productive part of society works their fingers to the bone.
i respect a working man....no matter what country he's from
which is a sorrier lot in life....working from daylight till dark in a sweat factory or sitting on your ass in the USA and letting the taxpayers foot the bill
i don't think that just because someone is under a repressive government that keeps them down....that it translates into they got shortchanged on brains and abilities. every country has an intelligent productive part of society and a unintelligent non-productive part of society. in the USA the unintelligent non-productive part of society sits on their asses, has babies, and scams the government for a living. in other countrys the unitelligent non-productive part of society works their fingers to the bone.
i respect a working man....no matter what country he's from
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69'vette
New member
Jimistone is absolutely right, and that's what I meant in my post. Those 'Poor Bastards' (your term) are a hell of a lot more respectable in my book for trying to improve their lot in life by WORKING, not waiting around for the government or some union to 'give' (impose on) them the life they 'deserve'.
The Western culture we live in lives a better standard of living than the rest of the world because of the many generations that came before us who WORKED for that standard. The brains, ingenuity, and guts of those 'greedy capatalists' are what allow all of us to only work 40 hours a week and have a decent living standard, instead of working 16+ hours a day trying to grow some food and find some shelter. Get over the fact that someone has more or less than you and be thankful for what you have... Luckily, we have the freedom to work for more if we want it. We also have the freedom and right to buy whatever the hell guitar (or mic!) we want to with the hard earned dollars we manage to make.
By the way C7, who washes your red shirts?
The Western culture we live in lives a better standard of living than the rest of the world because of the many generations that came before us who WORKED for that standard. The brains, ingenuity, and guts of those 'greedy capatalists' are what allow all of us to only work 40 hours a week and have a decent living standard, instead of working 16+ hours a day trying to grow some food and find some shelter. Get over the fact that someone has more or less than you and be thankful for what you have... Luckily, we have the freedom to work for more if we want it. We also have the freedom and right to buy whatever the hell guitar (or mic!) we want to with the hard earned dollars we manage to make.
By the way C7, who washes your red shirts?
64Firebird
New member
Why should anyone pay more for a product if they can get one that is just as good (or better) for a lower price.
A lot of you guy are saying that your less expencive guitars don't sound as good. What do you mean by this? Too bright? Too dark? Use your EQ, that's what it's for. Try another brand of strings. Guitar tone is not that hard to get and your guitar is only one part of it. Most of it comes from your hands and the way you approch the insterment.
You want to sound like SRV? Beat on your guitar the way ho did and it's easy! Hounddog Taylor sounded great and he played the cheapest guitars he could find.
As long as your looking for your tone outside of yourself in some gadget, your never going to find it.
A lot of you guy are saying that your less expencive guitars don't sound as good. What do you mean by this? Too bright? Too dark? Use your EQ, that's what it's for. Try another brand of strings. Guitar tone is not that hard to get and your guitar is only one part of it. Most of it comes from your hands and the way you approch the insterment.
You want to sound like SRV? Beat on your guitar the way ho did and it's easy! Hounddog Taylor sounded great and he played the cheapest guitars he could find.
As long as your looking for your tone outside of yourself in some gadget, your never going to find it.
64Firebird
New member
I give up! I keep trying to lead this back to guitars, but nobody seems to care.
c7sus I agree with most of what you have to say, but I din't think you've said anything about guitars or basses for several posts now. If you think that USA made guitars are better, tell us why you think so.
This is the guitar and bass forum!
Let's get back to it.
c7sus I agree with most of what you have to say, but I din't think you've said anything about guitars or basses for several posts now. If you think that USA made guitars are better, tell us why you think so.
This is the guitar and bass forum!
Let's get back to it.
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69'vette
New member
I for one have decided that a truce is in order. I've sent a personal message to C7sus thanking him for some good reading advice and will now and forever address only guitars in all their lovely form on this thread!
P.S. Does anyone know a good Acoustic guitar luthier/repairman in the NY area? My Guild is pretty sad these days, (no more room to adjust the Truss rod) but there's no way I will retire this baby. Even in her present form, this baby sings!
Thanks!
P.S. Does anyone know a good Acoustic guitar luthier/repairman in the NY area? My Guild is pretty sad these days, (no more room to adjust the Truss rod) but there's no way I will retire this baby. Even in her present form, this baby sings!
Thanks!
