Media players & graphEq

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Who here tinkers with the eq on your media player of choice when you listen to music?

Was talking to my friend...he tells me he always does it...puts up the bass and treble as a general rule.

I never bother to touch the eq in the media player. I just listened to the music and never reach for the eq. It never occurred to me to really mess with it.

Do you?
 
My computer speakers are bass heavy, so I have an eq setting to compensate. I bypass it when I send signal to my stereo system.
 
If I listen to stuff on the computer, I nearly always tinker with the EQ if what I'm listening to doesn't sound, ah, right. With most of my own old recordings, tinkering with the EQ is almost mandatory ! On the stereos in the house or car/van, I have things on a standard setting {+5 bass, +3 treble}, but stereos differ so wildly.
 
Never occurred to me to tinker with the eq...I used to do it for a laugh maybe...up the bass for 10 seconds. But when I think about it....media players, home stereos...they all have eq pretty much...obviously it's there for a reason...so you can adjust it to how you like it.
 
When I had a desktop PC with decent speakers and a subwoofer, I always had Windows Media Player and WinAmp EQed, bass and treble boost, mids scooped. Loved the sound.

On the laptop, doesn't really matter lol Everything sounds like crap.
 
Is upping the bass and treble necessarily saying anything about the music, if you know what I mean? I suppose I always kind of thought that if I were to up the bass and treble in media player then I'd be doing the music some kind of disservice...like I want to listen to it as is. But then hearing my friend say that he always tweaks the eq...then I thought well sure...not all playback systems are equal and that's why they have eq controls in the first place.
 
Is upping the bass and treble necessarily saying anything about the music, if you know what I mean? I suppose I always kind of thought that if I were to up the bass and treble in media player then I'd be doing the music some kind of disservice...like I want to listen to it as is......not all playback systems are equal and that's why they have eq controls in the first place.
That's the thing that I've found ~ it seems no two systems {even of the same brand or identical set ups} sound the same. And on a recording, regardless of the era, no instrumentalist, engineer, producer or masterer can legislate for individuals' preferences. Hence the EQs.
 
I agree - however, when it comes to analyzing a rendered mix - too much EQ tinkering can give you a false sense of mix quality. If you have to tinker with the EQ in order to make your recording sound good you could just be fooling yourself. My car stereo is a 6-speaker JBL system - I love listening to my rendered mixes in that enviroment but I do not touch the EQ at all when listening to a rendered mix. I want to know if there are any frequencies that are lacking so I can adjust them in the mix.
 
Never. I listen to music the way it was meant to be heard. Also, so I have something to compare to when I'm mixing my own stuff. I often use wmp to listen to commercial releases while mixing. If a song is eq'd in a media player, then it doesn't yield a good reference.
 
nope....in the car i use the loudness button for lower volumes but thats it....
 
eq always seems to make the music sound worse to me so i try to avoid it
 
I usually don't mess with the EQ, but I'll try different output levels from the player before amplification.

If you experiment you might find a sweet spot. I have a PC based home entertainment system, and I've experienced big improvements by playing with all of the levels in the chain. There are always at least three. player>sound card/AD conv.>amp/pwrd speakers etc. Try going backwards, set your amp/speaker to where it responds the best, and then adjust the others to where you like the volume level. You still might want to scoop the mids, but there will probably be more headroom.
 
Right...I see there's a few chiming in who don't touch the eq either...some do some don't...I always kind of thought it was not representing the music if I went for the eq...anyway whatever works
 
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Never done this.

Don't see the need for it as well, I like my playback system :)
 
1. Speakers are inaccurate. All of them, period. Some more, some less. There is no such thing as a speaker with a flat response, just those with differing degrees of deviation from flat.

2. Speakers are already full of filters (which is what an eq is). The box is a filter. A crossover is at least two filters. The drivers themselves are filters.

3. The frequency response deviations are associated with phase deviations that are often corrected with the very same filter set that corrects their frequency response.

3. The best sounding large concert systems have lots of electronic filters applied to correct the system itself. This is totally aside from room issues. Bad sounding concert systems probably also have a bunch of filters applied, they're just not done properly.

The purist attitude isn't supported by the reality, which is far from pure. I'm not talking about random "fiddling" with tone controls, I'm talking about specific corrections for specific inaccuracies. In some cases, for example my cheap Soundblaster computer speakers, the inaccuracy is obvious and an adjustment can be made by ear with the media player's eq. In other cases a bit of actual measurement is needed to determine the exact filter parameters (on a parametric eq) needed to bring the system closer to flat. And by measurement I don't mean a crude, time-blind RTA but something that takes time into consideration so you can sift out room issues from speaker issues and deal with them appropriately. Just as it is true that you can't truly fix room resonance issues with filters, you can't truly fix speaker frequency nonlinearity with room treatment.

Okay, there are speaker systems so close to flat that correction is not really required, but I bet on this forum that applies to a minority of monitoring setups and casual listening systems. You guys are basically saying you'd rather hear inaccurate sound from your speakers than be "impure" and apply a corrective filter. That's not rational.
 
As far as I understood it, we're only talking about one set of speakers...the one in our studio. In a well treated-room, I see no need to EQ my system. I've got used to listening to everything through them. Why would I EQ them???

This has nothing to do with "purism". I just find no sense in doing it.

Don't get so worked up about it. It's not that important. :):drunk:
 
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