Media players & graphEq

[bouldersoundguy]

As far as I understood it, we're only talking about one set of speakers...the one in our studio. In a well treated-room, I see no need to EQ my system. I've got used to listening to everything through them. Why would I EQ them???

You seem to know what you're doing and probably have good gear in your studio, but the OP referred to media players which suggests computer speakers. Computer speakers are not known for accuracy and there's lots of room for improvement via eq.

This has nothing to do with "purism". I just find no sense in doing it.

Don't get so defensive about it. It's not that important.

Blanket rejection of corrective filters without explanation is a purist point of view. It's "magical thinking" that neglects a scientific approach. It's the kind of thinking that keeps the sellers of $20,000 cables in business.

No, it's not that important, but once in a while I just have to tilt at a windmill.

 

[RAMI]

You seem to know what you're doing and probably have good gear in your studio, but the OP referred to media players which suggests computer speakers. Computer speakers are not known for accuracy and there's lots of room for improvement via eq.

True. I was talking studio environment and studio application. If we're talking about Windows Media Player and computer speakers, you may be right. I wouldn't know.

Blanket rejection of corrective filters without explanation is a purist point of view. It's "magical thinking" that neglects a scientific approach. It's the kind of thinking that keeps the sellers of $20,000 cables in business.

No, it's not that important, but once in a while I just have to tilt at a windmill.

So, in your studio or the studio you mix in, you have an EQ on your monitoring system? Just asking.

 

[bouldersoundguy]

So, in your studio or the studio you mix in, you have an EQ on your monitoring system? Just asking.

In two different studios I've measured the system response. By shortening the time window it's possible to make some distinction between the room resonances and the speakers' inherent response. I've also measured some speakers outdoors in half-space and on high stands to minimize the influence of boundaries. Then treatment can be applied to reduce room resonances and parametric filters can be applied to correct for the speakers themselves. In the one room with multiple monitors I have made presets for each. The number of filters varies from two to a bunch, depending on the speakers, but I don't try to fix cancellation with eq. The eq is easily bypassed for comparison. The mixes in both rooms are more consistent on various systems with the eq on than they are with it bypassed.

But on my computer I just hear a bunch of excess bass below 200Hz and fix it with the graphic in whatever media player I'm using. When I route the audio to my home system I bypass that eq.

 

[RAMI]

In two different studios I've measured the system response. By shortening the time window it's possible to make some distinction between the room resonances and the speakers' inherent response. I've also measured some speakers outdoors in half-space and on high stands to minimize the influence of boundaries. Then treatment can be applied to reduce room resonances and parametric filters can be applied to correct for the speakers themselves. In the one room with multiple monitors I have made presets for each. The number of filters varies from two to a bunch, depending on the speakers, but I don't try to fix cancellation with eq. The eq is easily bypassed for comparison. The mixes in both rooms are more consistent on various systems with the eq on than they are with it bypassed.

But on my computer I just hear a bunch of excess bass below 200Hz and fix it with the graphic in whatever media player I'm using. When I route the audio to my home system I bypass that eq.

Interesting. I honestly never thought that real studios use EQ on their monitoring systems. I'm just a home studio guy who has learned a bit by reading, experimenting, etc....so I'm in no position to say you're wrong.

For myself, I still wouldn't compensate with EQ, even with my modest set-up, only because I still think that getting to know my speakers and hearing everything that goes through them the same way is more important. Lcukily, I have a pretty well-treated room for a home set-up. If I started compensating with EQ, it would probably totally throw me off.

 

[grimtraveller]

To be honest, I didn't think Monkey Allen was talking about anything other than computers and stereo systems. Like on a walkman {I think I have one of only 7 left in the Western world ! } I tend to put on the 'megabass'. Just so I can hear the bass ! I understand the concept of listening to music as it was intended, but not every intention fits what I want to hear. In the same way I rearrange the order of albums if I don't like the running order. Just a quirk, I guess.