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was arrogant....

said i was pro....

said i was the best thing since sliced bread....

Well i'm none of the above and humbly ask you for your opinion of this song.

Handle Yo Business
 
Plenty of Bass. Might want to turn that down a bit.


Stoctony
 
I seem to be having a problem with that it's either not enough or too much I'm still looking for that happy medium.... Thanks for listening.
 
Whoever is singing this fucking rules. You know, I'm not sure the bass is too loud for this genre, but it sounds like maybe it's WAAAAY overcompressed. It's just more of a low thud down there instead of a melodic instrument. Did you write this? How much of it did you play? The wah git is infectious. You're talented. Tonight has been a treat in the clinic.

Oh, and on the bass, I gotta' warn you, I can't hit this on monitors right now, so don't take anything I say about the low end too seriously in terms of level. It could be way too hot, I can't be sure. All I can be sure about is that it needs some definition.
 
Well my artist came up with the lyrical content and gave me the idea of what he was shooting for he wanted to rap it but i had him sing it instead and we ended up with this.

I did the drum arrangement on my MPC and played the bass & organ on my korg triton the guitars are samples i got from a sample cd including the wah I just arranged them in there.

Heh i wish i could play a guitar I just fake it most of the time on a keyboard.

Thanks for listening.
 
bigwillz24 said:
Well my artist came up with the lyrical content and gave me the idea of what he was shooting for he wanted to rap it but i had him sing it instead and we ended up with this.
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Great decision.

Hey, since the bass was sampled, I guess it wasn't overcompressed after all then, LOL!! Did you do anything to the mix after mixing down to stereo? Maybe it's a limiter or something I'm hearing.
 
In my attempt to master the song myself I Eq'd, then compressed i think i used like a 4:0 ratio, Then slapped Wave Ultramaximizer L2 on there to bring it up from -6db to 0db.
I think this is where I keep getting it wrong at.
Most of the mixes i do sound very balanced to me after mixdown and the bass will sound great on my Monitors (Event TR6's) the woofer just doesn't move.
If I take that mix as is to the car and compare it to another commercial cd the bass is gone. So when mastering I'll bring up the bass (enough to make the woofer move... hey im a amateur LOL) prolly to much i suspect but it then sounds great on a car stereo and nothing else.

Any Ideas?
 
The low end is always the hardest part. Usually, the car test has the opposite effect...bass that sounds decent on the monitors can be overbearingly loud in the car, because cars are just big bass chambers. Having said that, the biggest problem MOST people have is not really with the lows (stuff below 100Hz), but it's more with the low mids...that huge area between 125Hz-500hz is where I spend 95% of my mix time trying to get balanced. The line between "warmth" and "mud" is just very fine when you're talking about people playing your tunes on ALL KINDS of different systems.

I really don't think the low end is out of hand on this tune...it's a different KIND of low end than exists in most pop/blues/or country mixes...hip hoppish stuff is SUPPOSED to have a lot of stuff below 80Hz in it, and since most of use can't even hear stuff below about 30Hz, you have to use your body as your guide, lol. Turn it up as loud as you can stand it on your monitors and leave the room and feel it. Switch between your mix and a commercial mix AT THE SAME VOLUME and leave the room during each and get that feel of where one is lacking. MOST times, when I do this, my mix is boomier than the commercial mix I'm A/Bing with.

Having said all of that crap, the truth is that most people in the real world listen to music in their cars a lot more than they do on quality home playback systems. Get it sounding good in the car, (be sure to check it on computer speaks [which have no low end at all in them] and make sure nothing out of whack is happening on either.

Besides the car, computer speakers are how most normal people hear music these days. It's a sad reality, lol. This'll sound insane, but computer speakers make for A GREAT bass check; when you listen on computer speakers, see if you can HEAR the notes of the bass. If not, it's not loud enough or it needs more midrange in the bass. You can't MIX on computer speakers because you might blow out everybody's subs if you were to rely on them for checking actual bass frequencies, but when trying to get the BALANCE of the mix, they're very useful.

I typed a lot and probably didn't help at all. MY biggest aids when mixing bass are good reference mixes and the volume knob. Between sounding good on your monitors and in the car, go for the car. :D
 
oh, and don't just compress an entire mix at 4:1 unless your threshold is really high...If your mix sounds good, just limit it. Compressing an entire mix with a 4:1 ratio will give you EXACTLY the "overcompressed" sound that I was hearing on the low end. Get and use a multiband if you're going to compress (Waves' Linear Multiband is great, and the Waves C4 is a good tool as well). They can really add some punch and sparkle to a mix (or totally fuck one up, lol)...but compression on the final mix shouldn't be the first step, and a flat 4:1 ratio across all bands with the same attack and release settings for the entire mix will do more damage than good.
 
Worth a shot i'll give it a go tommorrow and post the results.
 
Define the bass a bit and you've got a really nice sound. Good job!
 
well, I'm listening on computer speakers, and yes the bass sounds too hot, kinda overcrowding the song for me - not enough room mid range for the guits. I could be way off, but my ears tell me turn down the bass.

excellent song though, and everything else is generally superb. nice one.
 
Has a really good vibe to it.

Reminds me somewhat of Blackstar. Or an oldschool track.

Nice.
 
Hey, this is the first time I've been able to listen on monitors, but it sounds good to me. If you didn't change anything, then it was good...if you did, then nice job on the remix, lol. I think the vocal could come up exactly 1db, but I can make it out just fine right now...it's a balance thing...there's so much low end in this TYPE of music that it just needs some more midrange to balance it out sometimes.

The car is the only true test. :D
 
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