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im trying to learn more about mastering in cubase5 i recorded this and have spent sveral hours on it even though it is simple im trying to find out if this is even close to being right if someone could listen and give me thier opinion to help me along i know near the end you can hear the click going due to lack of noise cancelling headphones and a condensor mic, but regardless someone let me knwo what they think . i believe i have attached the file correctlty.
 

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Without even listening, I can tell you that no one will be able to comment on the mastering phase without hearing the original mix...
 
If i was you i'd sort out things like the click by volume automation at the mixing stage.
To my ears the electric/acoustic lead needs to come up in the mix. it's too buried.
the cymbals need more distance and maybe some more eq.
I guess its your take on a song like albatross.
It sound well recorded just unbalanced. I'd go back to mixing it a bit better before you try mastering again.
Keep it up .
bare in mind that i'm no expert in mastering at all
 
kip4 said:
If i was you i'd sort out things like the click by volume automation at the mixing stage.
To my ears the electric/acoustic lead needs to come up in the mix. it's too buried.
the cymbals need more distance and maybe some more eq.
I guess its your take on a song like albatross.
It sound well recorded just unbalanced. I'd go back to mixing it a bit better before you try mastering again.
Keep it up .
bare in mind that i'm no expert in mastering at all
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thank you sir that what i was going for input on the master.. i thought some of the same things too.

track 1 was just a mic'd accoustic
track 2 i gave the player a accoustic electric lined in and micd that one also,
track 3 on the leads was a different accoustic electric micd and lined in
track 4 on the cymbal sweela was a 20' zildjian a custom crash with a one condensor mic

i really appreciate the input i will go back correc things and post again

thanks,
noah
 
noahallen18 said:
thank you sir that what i was going for input on the master.. i thought some of the same things too.

track 1 was just a mic'd accoustic
track 2 i gave the player a accoustic electric lined in and micd that one also,
track 3 on the leads was a different accoustic electric micd and lined in
track 4 on the cymbal sweela was a 20' zildjian a custom crash with a one condensor mic

i really appreciate the input i will go back correc things and post again

thanks,
noah
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...and once again, this iabout mixing, not mastering.
 
mastering is a magical process,
you need a patience, patience and you can master anything
 
RAMI said:
...and once again, this iabout mixing, not mastering.
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Im telling you man - this has reached epidemic proportions. I've actually seen people post a scratch track - write for pages about how they PLAN to record THE REAL THING, how they are THINKING about LAYING out the hypothetical tracks, look for feedback on the plan - much script about THE VIBE they want to capture - suggestions on how to approach mixing ONCE THE ACTUAL TRACKS ARE RECORDED - and I SWEAR TO (insert here) suggestions for mastering plugins and tricks to get it LOUD LIKE PROS before anything beyond a SCRATCH TRACK has been commited. AND THEN - AND THEN - GET ANGRY OR EMOTIONAL when they receive negative feedback on the thing they posted originally because - IT'S NOT THE REAL TRACK - IT's just the IDEA for the real track. MOST posters like this wander around the periphery of the mp3 forum, rambling ENDLESSLY about the process, but never actually posting in the MP3 forum - CAUSE (insert here) FORBID anyone put themseleves in a position to LEARN by doing.

This rant has very little to do with the OP on this thread, and more to do with my perception of music forum life - I realize that. Sorry for the derail.
 
To Chuck's point, I think 99% of forum members need to focus like a laser on mixing, mixing techniques, getting their mixes loud and clear, with everything sitting right, good clear separation, width, stereo image, etc... The whole black art of then taking several of those songs and "mastering them" becomes somewhat less arduous when the mastering engineer is handed quality.

Part of the issue is that folks who are musicians, and or have been playing or around music for years, don't necessarily have an appreciation for all that goes in to the technical aspect (which is non-trivial) and let's face it? Like Olympic athletes? Not everyone can do it, regardless of how badly they want to do it. They may just do it badly...
 
if' they would focus on previous step even more (production/arrangement/recording)
then in consequences mix and master is just a touch
as it should be like that - polishing not creating/repairing job


RockinRobby said:
To Chuck's point, I think 99% of forum members need to focus like a laser on mixing, mixing techniques, getting their mixes loud and clear, with everything sitting right, good clear separation, width, stereo image, etc... The whole black art of then taking several of those songs and "mastering them" becomes somewhat less arduous when the mastering engineer is handed quality.

Part of the issue is that folks who are musicians, and or have been playing or around music for years, don't necessarily have an appreciation for all that goes in to the technical aspect (which is non-trivial) and let's face it? Like Olympic athletes? Not everyone can do it, regardless of how badly they want to do it. They may just do it badly...
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Massive Master said:
Without even listening, I can tell you that no one will be able to comment on the mastering phase without hearing the original mix...
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Very true, :) but we can comment on the end product which may help him somewhat. :)

The fade in at the start is bad, too abrupt for a fade in (if you even meant there to be a fade in).
Overall not much "wrong" with the sound, but the lo-fi sound seems to lye in the recordings.
Did you Di the guitars?
What mic did you use?

G
 
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