Marshall Electronics Mics - Beware

[BigKahuna]

I figured that from his post.
But, what a great post to add to a thread that basically calls all Marshall mics into question ... huh?
I'm glad he posted it again. Some folks may have missed the first one (myself included ... trying to think what I was doing in Jan2001 ... it's all a blank). You guys obviously knew ... and posted so ... and that's good. But a post from Harvey Gerst backing that same opinion up ... well that's just golden.
Anyway, I just don't see a need to trash anything.
Thanks to you for posting that link, btw.

 

[heylow]

Dont you guys get bored of this? Ever?



heylow

 

[Freudian Slip]

Strangers in the night, Hmm Hmmm Hmmm Hm Hm.........


F.S.

 

[Randy Yell]

I know you guys were just joking about the SP plant thing but it is time to let it go.Alan seems to me to be a good guy and I would guess that he is getting fed up with all the anti SP bullshit that gets posted here whether if it is in jest or otherwise and I don't blame him.I get pretty fed up with it myself.I know the Marshall V67 gets a lot of good press here but I'll be damned if I will buy another Marshall mic just to join the V67 fan club that seems to be on this forum.RE has given his opinion on Alan's posts and Harvey has also given his,and in case you haven't noticed every time another bullshit thread is posted on the subject Harvey post less often.It is time to let the bullshit go and treat Alan with the same respect that everyone here deserves.If you guys want to drive away all the really knowledgable and experienced members of this forum just keep up the bullshit.I know that the posts in this thread were meant to be humorous but it is not funny anymore,please just let it go.

 

[muzeman]

I should know better by now than to get in the middle!
Whew!

 

[ozraves]

You guys should be nice. Harvey and Alan arguably are the two giants of mics for the project studio. Alan's mics don't need any more hype. They self generate hype b/c they are good.

 

[Randy Yell]

I think that the damage has been done.I don't believe that Alan is coming back.Why don't you guys see who you can drive away next.Stephen Paul?I believe that bridge has been burned also.Hey maybe we don't need the knowledgable members of this forum,if anyone seems to be getting too much knowledge we should jump on them too.After all we have enough wannabes(I include myself here)and posers to answer all our questions.

See,this just proves that only a handful of people can make a difference by fucking everything up for everyone else.I remember it was only a handful of people who drove Stephen Paul away also,funny I seem to think it was some of the same people.Thanks a shitload guys.

 

[chessrock]

You guys should be nice. Harvey and Alan arguably are the two giants of mics for the project studio.

That is an insult to Harvey to mention Alan in the same breath. Harvey has no other hidden agendas other than to help us out and share his knowlege. And he is a polite and respectful guest of this forum. As is Dan Kennedy, Ethan W. and others.

As far as Stephen Paul goes, I'm afraid he wrote his own ticket outta' here. No matter how big of a name you are, you have to show some human decency and respect for others if you want people to respect you back.

And as far as driving good people away goes . . . wouldn't it be nice if guys like Mark McQuilken or Fletcher (Mercenary audio) were to drop by from time to time? As it stands, I think in order to make this the kind of place that attracts that level of visitor, we need to do a little more housekeeping.

That said, I understand where I may have not shown much respect to Alan. But he is a guest on this board, and as a guest, he should treat us with respect and honesty. If this were your home, would you appreciate it if he came by, propped his feet up on your furniture and started posting advertisements on your clean walls?

I like Alan very much for what his company does. I also like Paul McCartney for what the Beatles did. But if Paul were to visit this forum and start telling everyone to buy his new album and tickets to his next show . . . as well as trashing the Rolling Stones, I would say very kindly: "Paul, you are a legend, but get the hell out of here."

 

[Randy Yell]

Whatever.What you have failed to realise is that the majority of the people here support Alan and do not share your views about his allegged spamming.Thank you for making that determination for us as obviously the majority of people here,including Harvey who has very recently given his take on the matter,are not qualified to think for ourselves.I appreciate that a handful of people have taken on the responsibility of doing our thinking for us.Thanks again.

BTW,as far as Fletcher posting here,I sincerely doubt whether some people could handle the candor of Fletcher's posts.He says what he means and tolerates no bullshit(which would mean he would never post here).If you guys couldn't handle Stephen Paul there is no way that you could take Fletcher.As soon as he said something that was not in your holy favor the flame wars would begin.Sometimes when you are trying to learn you should try really listening to the answers instead of arguing because they don't fit into your preconcieved idea of what the answers should be.Have a nice day.

 

[ausrock]

Randy,

You just about nailed it.

The people that keep refering to Alan Hyatt's "hiddens agendas" should take a good fuckin' look at themselves...............they have constantly baited, heckled, provoked and harassed not only Alan and others who mention SP mics, but have now turned their warped attention to disrupting and twisting posts around to suit their own apparent "hidden agendas".......to have this site the way THEY want it.

I don't have a problem with people having their own opinions, that's how it should be,..... BUT to constantly harangue every poor bastard that happens to want to read a particular thread by posting anti spam, anti Hyatt, anti whatever comments, just because that's the way YOU THINK this BBS should be, then that's where I start to draw the line...............and trying to justify it by quoting the "Rules" here doesn't cut. Dragon has had ample opportunity to act IF he felt it was necessary.........HE HASN"T!!!!

What does that tell you?

These people should stick to posting where they can do the most good with help and advice on recording, instead of continuing their preoccupation with Alan Hyatt's posts.

 

[Randy Yell]

I think we don't have to worry about Alan's future posts as from what I understand he is done with us here and I don't blame him.I consider it to be a major loss for this forum.

 

[muzeman]

I have to agree!

 

[toorglick]

The old women here are meanies

There's a handful of old women here who do nothing but criticize and can't bring themselves to ignore a thread if they have nothing usefult o say. I'm surprised their meddling hasn't gotten their accounts deleted as that's what really should be done.

It's too bad. I'm sure there are a lot more lurkers out there who will not participate because of these few people. I'm sure we're missing out on valuable insight and interesting experiences, and obviously we've lost some folks along the way.

Why won't the old hags here go find a bingo parlor to hang out in and let people discuss what they want to discuss without interruption? Why dirty up this forum with their bullshit? Why Dragon doesn't address this issue is beyond me. I suppose the rest of us should learn to ignore them.

 

[darrin_h2000]

I dont get it, someone show me a Post made by Alan where he has insulted another mic, or the Rolling stones for that matter.

I seem to recall this thread being started by someone else.

 

[crazydoc]

A joke's a joke, for awhile. After pounding it into the ground for months, it gets tedious.

If there's more than tired humor to this seeing SP and Alan Hyatt spam between the posts of any threads that laud the virtues of SP mics or point out any perceived defects in other brands, then it smacks of a paranoid psychosis. As far as I can see there is no more than unsubstantiated innuendo in these accusations of his spamming. Where some see "Hyattism", I see anti-Hyattism. Mr. Hyatt was a valuable addition to this board, as I'm sure most folks realise. Way to go - who can you drive away next?

Those who can, do: those who can't, criticise.

 

[chessrock]

I was in your exact same shoes, defending Alan to the death not more than 3 months ago. Since then, I have done my research on his threads, and realized my errors.

Do a similar search, and I think you'll see what I mean. If the search function is still working, that is. And it's not so much that he "bashes" other company's mics. He simply posts information about them that isn't accurate. And I'm sure Gidge can point out the one about the v67, and I can vouch for a technically innaccurate statement that he made about the v93, where he criticized it for a feature it doesn't have.

Look, it made me sad when he did that, but I had to know if the accusations were true. Sadly, they are. And I hate to see him go, but I feel betrayed by Alan, and silly for defending him all this time. What I found even more disturbing about my search wasn't as much about what I find, but what I didn't find: And what I didn't find was a single meaningful thread about anything not related to his products. That is sad.

And as far as Fletcher goes, I have read his posts at the other forum, and I think he'd fit in here very well. He has no problem whatsoever posting about products that he doesn't sell. He was one of the staunch supporters of the RNC, even before he started carrying them, and at a time when he was selling far more expensive toys. Talk to Mark Kennedy, and he'll probably convince you NOT to buy one of his products untill your skills improve. That's the kind of honesty we appreciate around here, and Fletcher would be welcome with open arms. And so would Stephen Paul, if he has thick skin.

 

[bas1236]

Sorry, i didn't mean to attack the precious Marshall-- obviously a sacrileage on this board. The reason for my post was that I read a lot of cheerleading for low-end mics and wanted to post an alternate view. Thank you to Harvey for posting the ONE serious and useful reply to my post.

 

[LooneyTunez]

bas1236,


It's fine that you posted an 'alternate view' about ONE of Marshall's mics, but you're subject line and post put a negative spin on ALL Marshall mics in general, and it put people on the defense right away. It's not sacrilege to offer us some information that may break our spirit on a particular brand/model, but please be carefull, and get all the facts first.

 

[toorglick]

It's not a matter of defending Alan or anyone else. That's ridiculous. It's a matter of principle in that a few girls around here cry, piss and moan when a thread goes in a direction they don't appreciate. Then those threads generally turn into a discussion on the discussion, much like this one.

I can care less if manufacturers here post about their products, as long as it's germane to the topic at hand. If they spam or otherwise make fools of themselves, that would be apparent and we don't need more fools making fools of themselves trying to point out the first fool. The entire thing becomes foolish, sophomoric and laughable.

 

[crazydoc]

and I can vouch for a technically innaccurate statement that he made about the v93, where he criticized it for a feature it doesn't have.

And in the next post after you pointed out the mistake, he freely admitted it and explained he was tired from working 20 hour days. We all make mistakes.

The crazy part of all this are the accusations of "Alan Hyatt plants" whom some here believe are either his hirelings or he himself pseudonymously spamming the board.

Again, if it's a joke, it's not funny and has engendered a lot of ill will. If it's serious, seek help.