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morning lights
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any endorsements? this looks like it could step up a small studio's tones a lot.
any other units that compete?
any other units that compete?
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craigmorris74
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If you're willing to spend that kind of money, there are several choices out there. If you don't have a pro audio shop nearby, go to vintageking or mercenary audio and look at the high end eq's they offer. If you want a passive eq, many brands have options out there. BTW, I'm not implying the Massive Passive isn't a good unit, but just that it's not the only game in town.
Massive Master
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It's a great unit -- Colorful, subtle, musical, etc.
But perhaps not the greatest keystone unit out there. You might look at the (Crane Song) Ibis, Millennia NSEQ2...
You "add" Manley gear (if that makes some sort of warped sense).
But perhaps not the greatest keystone unit out there. You might look at the (Crane Song) Ibis, Millennia NSEQ2...
You "add" Manley gear (if that makes some sort of warped sense).
Tim Brown
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For some reason, I have never liked Passive EQ's. It's like th EQ section on an old Ampeg G4 guitar amp - it adds some color, but the tonal changes aren't drastic enough for me.
Tim
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craigmorris74
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Huh? Ever used a Pultec?
Tim Brown
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No, but I have used the Manley though.
One of my friends bought one not too long ago, and he was like,"I got a Massive Passive!" and I was scratching my head think,"Why?!?!" His studio is computer based, and my thinking is - if I were going to get outboard equipment for that - I'd b investing in some extremely high quality mic Pre's before I plopped down over $2,000 for something like that - but that's just me.
Tim
Supercreep
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craigmorris74
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Maybe your friend wants a great EQ? A lot of people are using hardware compression and EQ and recording to computer. The way you wrote that you were crapping on the idea of having the EQ before you'd heard it. There isn't a plugin EQ out there that's going to impart the character of the hardware pieces, although some get close.
I guess what you're getting at is that an active EQ might be able to do more extreme things with the sound than a passive model?
Tim Brown
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And if you know where I can get one anywhere near 2K PM me please.
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I said over, not near!
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Technically, he paid over $4,000 for it.... he bought it new at Sweetwater.
What I'm saying is, if my only recording gear was 3 mic's(A rode Tube, a lower end Neumann, and some kind of AKG condenser) a PC with Sonar7, and a MOTU firewire interface - I'd be investing in a few quality Mic Pre's before buying something like the Massive Passive, and I sure wouldn't have bought that new.
I'm just saying, his money could have been spent a little more wisely from my perspective. He doesn't even have decent monitors! (He's using a pair of little Yamaha bookshelf monitors that he got for $90 for the pair about 10 years ago. They work okay, but they are nowhere near flat.)
$4,000 could set you up with a couple of quality Mic Pre's and decent monitors. (like an API, a Hardy, etc as far as pre-amps go.)
Tim
Tim Brown
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I've used the Massive Passive before. Yes, I prefer an Active Parametric EQ over a Passive EQ.
You need the basics before you start throwing money on extra's. My friend who bought it has no real mic pre's, and crappy monitors. That was why I couldn't understand why he bought it - I still think the money should have gone on a set of monitors and some mic pre's.
He's trying to use the EQ to add warmth to his recordings, rather than buying an actual mic pre-amp which will do the job a lot cheaper.
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morning lights
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craigmorris74
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I've got the UAD EQ's. Then I have Pultec type EQ's and have the opportunity to use Neve EQ's. The boost/cut behavior of the UAD stuff is pretty much spot on, but I wouldn't run a mix through the UAD plug left flat in order to enhance the signal. The sound of transformers is especially hard to emulate, apparently.
kubeek
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Can please someone explain me how can you get you get +20dB boost from a PASSIVE EQ?
That´s some new massive passive physical theory isn't it?
I understand that it has tube buffers on input and output, but buffers usually don´t give 20dB gain, and passive circuits even less often (actually a few dB peak is possible, but 20 no way).
That´s some new massive passive physical theory isn't it?
I understand that it has tube buffers on input and output, but buffers usually don´t give 20dB gain, and passive circuits even less often (actually a few dB peak is possible, but 20 no way).
Supercreep
Lizard People
Enough with the "warm" talk. It makes me want to puke.
To some people "warm" means subdued HF response. To other people it means distortion.
In either case, saying you want to "warm" something up makes me think that what you really want is a microwave oven, not an EQ.
To some people "warm" means subdued HF response. To other people it means distortion.
In either case, saying you want to "warm" something up makes me think that what you really want is a microwave oven, not an EQ.
Supercreep
Lizard People
Is there a unit out there that doesn't have "harmonic tone"?
Do ones that lack it suck the "harmonics" right out of the "tone"?
Does anybody else's brain hurt from this marketing jargon?
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morning lights
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screw you dude, i am looking for real replies i don't market jack except morninglights.org myspace.com/morninglights
Supercreep
Lizard People
LOL. I'm not accusing you of anything except using using heavily subjective and widely overused descriptors. I might be an asshole, but I'm not picking on you.
I am a little tiny bit incredulous that while you are looking at pulling the trigger on a $4,300.00 eq that you are logging on to HR and asking us about it. If you're spending that kind of coin you should really know exactly what it is you're doing.
/rant off/
Supercreep
Lizard People
And welcome to HR, BTW.
NL5
Unpossible!
Hell, if you want "warm" get some tube gear - it will warm your whole house. 