making your own vsts with word prompts opens the playing field

[kurth]

AMORPH OPEN BETA - turn ideas into Instruments/FX

Amorph is the first prompt-driven audio plugin that turns ideas into instruments and effects using AI prompts. No coding required. Just Ask, Compile, and Play.Stop searching for the right plugin. Just describe it.You don't need to know how to code. You just need to know what you want to hear...

artistsindsp.gumroad.com

if it does what the guy in the vid says....the daw just got even more interesting. This is an interesting ai angle.

 

[DM60]

I started seeing VSTs popping up in Max for Live Plug in's along these lines.

 

[VomitHatSteve]

As an amateur musician and professional programmer (who now has to use LLMs for the programming), this sucks.

Writing code is itself an art, the same as recording music. Using LLM tools to build your tech stack is as artistically vapid as using an LLM to generate your album art.

 

[kurth]

peter thiel just was quoted as saying it's the math guys who will get burned first. I haven't tried this yet but, since I don't have anything in the vst building game whatsoever, from my perspective, the proof is just what would come out. If it makes your chords sound good, it is good. It's just interpreting your musical input in a particular way, the same as a commercial vst, whether an instrument or effect. It's nowhere near the same level, like an ai generated song, or film for example. I think your point essentially says everyone not designing & coding their own vsts are in some way cheating. It's like saying we shouldn't use guitars built in a modern computerized robotic factory , only guitars handmade by luthiers. But if that was the case, lots of people wouldn't own guitars.

 

[VomitHatSteve]

You're really straw-manning my point here.

Those commercial VSTs were designed by human artists. Those machined guitars were designed by human artists.

Coding is an art. Designing a VST is an art.

Drawing album covers is an art. Writing and recording music are both arts.

As a musician and a programmer, I think respecting each others' art forms is the right move. AI slop is for corporations trying to cut corners. It's not for songwriters; it's not for designers; it's not for hobbyist programmers.

 

[DM60]

I was talking to a friend of mine, he was writing code for returning a result set. The databases are huge complex object oriented databases. For reference if you've ever worked with Object oriented, relationships can only be computer generated. His customer had code that would take it to return result sets, 5 days (not a simple query, but complex relationships, like where used by, where referenced, you get the idea). So he re-coded it made it more efficient, but was using too much resources on the server. Custer put it in one of the AI generators. The code came back, result set returned in minutes and the efficiency went from 98%+, to like 5% of server resources. He then went on to tell me he started looking at the code and couldn't even follow it. Now, this guys has been actively coding for 45 years.

AI is taking certain areas to the next level. Just like Object Oriented was a big game changer, but you needed a program to map the relationships with look up tables and key fields and ...

I think the art in computer programming is for the UI interaction, process driven (ERP, PLM, PLC coding) because when they started getting coders who had no background in a certain industry/discipline, their code was shit. Plain and simple. Oh yea, it didn't crash the system, but that was about all it did.

I think when you are talking art of coding, same with music, are you just using math/code or are you trying to solve a complex unique problem? That is where the art comes in. As we can see, AI makes good music, but only music that has already been done. Going to be hard to think out side of the box. IMO

 

[TAE]

Got a close friend that has been writing code for his software company since the 80's.

@ 3 years ago he told me to hold on to my boot straps because AI is coming and it is going to change everything.
He owns a company that makes software for trucking companies..to manage everything from their books to the drivers logs.
Like I said since the 80's.

He told me that what use to take days for him to write now takes a few hours. He tells AI what to make which doesn't take very long and then it requires him to go through and correct minor errors...and it will only get better and easier.

I 100% do not like what AI can with music. That said who made AI? A paradox of sorts right? Certainly we can all agree that some humans are blessed with a higher degree of musical capabilities. AI generated music is just the result of human evolution creating digital musical prodigies and they will only get better and they are already too good.

Remember that Twilight Zone episode " To serve man" well ...I'm just saying We're cooked

 

[DM60]

Got a close friend that has been writing code for his software company since the 80's.

@ 3 years ago he told me to hold on to my boot straps because AI is coming and it is going to change everything.
He owns a company that makes software for trucking companies..to manage everything from their books to the drivers logs.
Like I said since the 80's.

He told me that what use to take days for him to write now takes a few hours. He tells AI what to make which doesn't take very long and then it requires him to go through and correct minor errors...and it will only get better and easier.

I 100% do not like what AI can with music. That said who made AI? A paradox of sorts right? Certainly we can all agree that some humans are blessed with a higher degree of musical capabilities. AI generated music is just the result of human evolution creating digital musical prodigies and they will only get better and they are already too good.

Remember that Twilight Zone episode " To serve man" well ...I'm just saying We're cooked

View attachment 152089

I love this episode. Greatest moment is when the lady yells at the guy getting ready to board the craft. "It's a cookbook!". Damn funny in a twisted way. Everything has its price.