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psneddon
New member
Has anyone any tips on making midi sound 'real' in Sonar. I mean how do do bass slide, and make violins sound real?
Regards,
Paul
Regards,
Paul
AlChuck
Well-known member
Record real violins.
Seriously, there's a lot of tweaking you can do to try to make it sound less fake, but the fact remains that the real thing is capable of being played with an infinite continuum of variations -- which is what makes it sound real -- while no matter how good of a set of samples you have, they are still samples and fiddling with them (no pun intended) is not the same as what a violinist does to his instrument. You can't pluck the sample or bounce the bow off it, you can only modify MIDI parameters... it just is not the same. You'll kill yourself trying to make them sound truly real.
Seriously, there's a lot of tweaking you can do to try to make it sound less fake, but the fact remains that the real thing is capable of being played with an infinite continuum of variations -- which is what makes it sound real -- while no matter how good of a set of samples you have, they are still samples and fiddling with them (no pun intended) is not the same as what a violinist does to his instrument. You can't pluck the sample or bounce the bow off it, you can only modify MIDI parameters... it just is not the same. You'll kill yourself trying to make them sound truly real.
Stealthtech
LOGIC ABUSER
If you have a software sampler such as the exs24 with logic audio, and you use real audio samples from a collection on CD, you can use midi to trigger, and with a little work, get them sounding really nice. Takes a lot of practice though..
TexRoadkill
Audio Bum
The sound source is the biggest factor. What synth are you using? Kurzweil has some nice string sounds.
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psneddon
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i have good sound sources (e.g. halion samples), I'm looking more on info on how to do bass guitar slides in Sonar and how to make instruments like cellos sound better, e.g. volues curves, expression curves etc, if you can understand what I mean.
TexRoadkill
Audio Bum
Pitch bends, volume curves, and release velocity are some tricks to play with. Some sound modules react better to those controller messages than others. The best tricks are to use specific special effect samples that add finger squeek, fret noise, and classical effects like tremolo and crescendo's.
Check out the Denny Jaeger string library. They have a lot of effect samples for classical strings.
Check out the Denny Jaeger string library. They have a lot of effect samples for classical strings.
Lt. Bob
Spread the Daf!
Also to sound real
you have to phrase things like the real instrument would. A saxophone might play the same kinda runs a guitar might but a frenchhorn never would. To sound like an instrument, you have to play the same kinda passages the real instrument would.
you have to phrase things like the real instrument would. A saxophone might play the same kinda runs a guitar might but a frenchhorn never would. To sound like an instrument, you have to play the same kinda passages the real instrument would.