mackie onyx or 02r

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I want to replace my mobile setup with some type of mixer. Presently I use3octopres for 24channels of preamps.I am looking at either a Mackie Onyx 1640 or 24-4, or the Yamaha 02r digital. I know the 02r was used for James Taylors album "hour glass?"by Frank Filipitti(spelling). He used the pres from the 02r. I wonder how as it only has 8 xlr mic inputs? The pres on the Onyx (I have been told by people that have used them) are supposed to be great, better than 02r. Any thoughts?
 
Those two pieces are really different, hard to compare. The Yammie is a $10,000 full-featured workstation with built-in dynamics, machine/DAW control, shitloads of routing options, and so on. It only has 8 pres because if you buy one of those, you have the money to buy more pre cards, or you have other pres you'd rather plug into it's other 48 inputs. The Mackie is a $1200 16 channel mixer with a firewire cable sticking out it's backside.
 
I think he was referring to the cost of the unit when it originally came out.

I personally would not buy a digital mixer that old, or one that is limited to 24/48k (I believe that's the top sample rate).

It also depends on what your needs are.

For example, if you will be using the mixer for mobile recording, the O2R will be much too heavy and fragile. In that scenario the Mackie would probably be a better choice.

If what you need is basically inputs that you feed to your computer, then the Mackie with the firewire also would look like a good choice. But if you are looking for eq and compression on every channel, plus onboard fx, all sorts of internal routing options, etc., then the Yamaha is obviously the more full featured mixer.

But again, I personally would go with something newer. The Tascam DM-24 mixers are going quite cheap these days and will do 24/96k, for example.
 
yes, I want it for mobile recording. Prsently I use 3 octopres but I am not HUGE fan of their sound. I have heard the mic pres on the onyx ( the onyx 1640 which I assume are the same as the 32-4 onyx that I looking at) are great, better than octpores. I do not like aslo having to fiddle with the gain controls on the octopres, i'd rather have a console with good pres and in addition be able to have a cd burner conected to it for ruff mixes for the band at the end of the night. Do not need fire wire just mixer,good pres.
Jim
 
the mackie onyx 1640 or 32-4 Im looking is analog. They may have firewire ability but I dont need it for my purposes. I go straight to hd24 then fireport into computer.
 
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the mackie onyx 1640 or 32-4 Im looking is analog. They may have firewire ability but I dont need it for my purposes. I go straight to hd24 then fireport into computer.
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FWIW, I have a 1640 Onyx and the pres are fantastic.
 
i'd second the onyx if you all need is a box full of nice preamps
 
Ironklad Audio said:
i'd second the onyx if you all need is a box full of nice preamps
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Yes, that is really all I want it for, nice preamps for live recording that I can take a ruff mix off of for band. Then mix in computer. Even eq's are not important for my purpose.
 
jmorris said:
Yes, that is really all I want it for, nice preamps for live recording that I can take a ruff mix off of for band. Then mix in computer. Even eq's are not important for my purpose.
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You may do fine with a rack mount unit, then and not pay for the mixer's bells and whistles.

This one is $ 700.

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan06/articles/mackieonyx400f.htm

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And this one has 12 preamps - $ 1,600. 30 in, 34 out. http://www.zzounds.com/a--2676837/item--MACONYX1200F
 
For what you need analog is the way to go, in my opinion.

The Midas Venice 240 would also be a great mixer for you, but I think it's probably over your target budget. The Toft ATB24 is another mixer that you should take a look at, but it also will not be in the same price range as the Mackie Onyx series.
 
Treeline said:
That's one hell of a project if you're tracking 24 at once!
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yeah, they are not always 24 tracks, mostly 12-16 tracks is the norm but I need the ability to go 24 at times, horn bands and such.
 
SonicAlbert said:
For what you need analog is the way to go, in my opinion.

The Midas Venice 240 would also be a great mixer for you, but I think it's probably over your target budget. The Toft ATB24 is another mixer that you should take a look at, but it also will not be in the same price range as the Mackie Onyx series.
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Alber, I dont reallt have a price range.Cheap is good like the Onyx but Im not against more expensive units if the quality is there.
 
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