Ludwig Drums - Recording

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There is very little difference between brands. The accent kits are the cheap ones, it may or may not work for you.
 
the real problem with that particular kit would be the large drums (my opinion).

i find it incredibly hard to mic up large drums and have them sound good, especially large bass drums. i seem to get a much better sound from an 18" kick, rather than a 24".

18" floor tom- i have one, i put it in the closet.. incredibly hard to get a good recorded sound.

so now my 7 piece ludwig vistalite is stripped down to a 4 piece, jazz style kit.
 
TragikRemix said:
the real problem with that particular kit would be the large drums (my opinion).

i find it incredibly hard to mic up large drums and have them sound good, especially large bass drums. i seem to get a much better sound from an 18" kick, rather than a 24".

18" floor tom- i have one, i put it in the closet.. incredibly hard to get a good recorded sound.

so now my 7 piece ludwig vistalite is stripped down to a 4 piece, jazz style kit.
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That's just a tuning issue. I have no problem getting an 18 inch floor tom to sound great. I also prefer 24 inch kicks. 18's and 20's are too high pitched for my taste. They have the punch but none of the depth.
 
Farview said:
That's just a tuning issue. I have no problem getting an 18 inch floor tom to sound great. I also prefer 24 inch kicks. 18's and 20's are too high pitched for my taste. They have the punch but none of the depth.
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but would you recommend it for an amateur?

you advanced guys are funny, you're always like, oh, no big deal, i have no problem, just do this, etc.. ;)

and people like me are still like :confused: :confused: :confused:

:D
 
TragikRemix said:
but would you recommend it for an amateur?

you advanced guys are funny, you're always like, oh, no big deal, i have no problem, just do this, etc.. ;)

and people like me are still like :confused: :confused: :confused:

:D
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The larger the bass drum the harder to control.

22" is the most common size. Shell length (depth) is a preference thing.

Heal Toe work will be harder for example the larger the kick drum.
 
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JenniferNorth said:
I am looking for a good kit, mainly for recording. And, my wife is interested in a Ludwig kit. I think an acent zep kit...

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ludwig-Zep-Set-Accent-Series-Drumset?sku=447754

As far as recording, how does this Brand hold up? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
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Obviously it's not going to sound like most other kits recorded cuz it's so huge. Personally, I think it sounds good, and has decent hardware. Also, the 26" bass drum really blows peoples minds when they see it. The best thing you can do is to go to a store that carries it and has it set up and hear it first hand.
 
What about the Ludwig Amber Vistalite 5-Piece. Has anyone recorded with these. I can't find anything about these actually being used in the studio.
Did jon bonham use them on any of the albums? Sorry to ask so many questions...I'm not really familiar with the make or material associated with vistalites. I've been playing an old remo kit for 10 years and I really want to invest in a good drum kit for recording.
 
TragikRemix said:
but would you recommend it for an amateur?

you advanced guys are funny, you're always like, oh, no big deal, i have no problem, just do this, etc.. ;)

and people like me are still like :confused: :confused: :confused:

:D
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I would really go with a 22. It's pretty normal. Just get a D112 or a Beta 52. (D112 goes inside the kick a couple inches from the batter head half way between the beater and the shell. The beta 52 needs to be just inside the hole) Tune the drum so that it has the thump and attack that you need. (If the drum doesn't sound good in real life, it won't sound great with a mic infront of it)
 
SillyBee said:
The larger the bass drum the harder to control.

22" is the most common size. Shell length (depth) is a preference thing.

Heal Toe work will be harder for example the larger the kick drum.
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I like the bigger kicks because you can have the head tighter and still have it produce a low note.
 
JenniferNorth said:
What about the Ludwig Amber Vistalite 5-Piece. Has anyone recorded with these. I can't find anything about these actually being used in the studio.
Did jon bonham use them on any of the albums? Sorry to ask so many questions...I'm not really familiar with the make or material associated with vistalites. I've been playing an old remo kit for 10 years and I really want to invest in a good drum kit for recording.
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The vistalites are really loud, it isn't my first choice, but I really like wood.

As far as I remember, Bonham used the Maple kits. But it wouldn't have mattered what kit Bonham was playing, it still would have sounded like that. There are live DVD's of him playing the vistalites, it still sounds like him.
 
i have vistalites- its terrible

vistas= hell.

the new vistalites arent too great either. the old ones blow them away.
 
Farview said:
I like the bigger kicks because you can have the head tighter and still have it produce a low note.
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Me too.

John Bonham is my hero.
 
Bottom line: The Bohnam kit is overpriced for what it is because it says "Bonham" on it. You could get a 22, 10, 12, 14 kit of the same quality from ludwig for about half the price. For the same price, you could buy a 'normal' sized kit from the next step up in quality.

If you really have a John Bonham fetish and really want that kit, fine. Just know that you are paying mid level prices for bottom of the line stuff.
 
Vista kits only have one sound. It is not a good sound for recording. Dont do it. You will be happier with a maple or birch kit.

Drummers of my vintage are still converting those old vistalite kits into planters. That drumset became a rehearsal kit the very nanosecond I got into and kit that had wood in it.
 
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