looking to build my first rack

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why do studios have those huge mixing boards that look like there 100 channels when i cant think of a need for more than like 12 ?
 
cake1122 said:
why do studios have those huge mixing boards that look like there 100 channels when i cant think of a need for more than like 12 ?
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I hope your not turning down the tascam 1884 cause its not got 100 channels and looks like what the 'big' studios have?
 
Kevin DeSchwazi said:
I got the 1082 recently, it's pretty damn good for the money. I don't really use the pres but i've tried them out and they're OK.
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Yer, i mean theyre not going to be as warm as $10000 tube pre's but they are pretty good considering it comes in a mixer.
How are the motorised faders? Are they pretty smooth?
 
breeeeza said:
Yer, i mean theyre not going to be as warm as $10000 tube pre's but they are pretty good considering it comes in a mixer.
How are the motorised faders? Are they pretty smooth?
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Yeah very and quiet as well, you can just abut hear the servos click into action if you listen out for them. Touch sensitive too so as soon as you rest your finger on a fader that track is activated in the DAW.

It's one of those things i won't be able to live without now. :D
 
Kevin DeSchwazi said:
Yeah very and quiet as well, you can just abut hear the servos click into action if you listen out for them. Touch sensitive too so as soon as you rest your finger on a fader that track is activated in the DAW.

It's one of those things i won't be able to live without now. :D
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Yer i was thinking about getting the 'b control' :eek: All my money can get me.

What do you mostly use the control surface for, adjusting buss volume/chanel volume, panning etc? What else can it do? If i use a software EQ can i adjust it with the control surface or just with the dreaded mouse?
 
I like the 1884 a lot, and it's quite a step up from the 1084... The 10 has 60mm faders vs. the 100mm in the 18, and I like the adat interface as it allows you to expand at a later date. I think for quality of pres the Firepod will likely outdo it, but you could use your mixer's pres and go into the Tascam, or you could sell the mixer and pick up an M Audio Octane (highly recommended). If I were you, and I was trying to acomplish the 'basic beginner setup' I recommended above, I'd get:

Mics: SM57, AKG D112, MXL 603 (2), SP C1 - around 600
Interface: Either a Firepod or a Tascam 1884 - 500-1200
Pres: M Audio Octane - 500
Software: Cubase - 200-500(depends on the version)
Monitors, Event TR8's - 600?

Add some cables, stands, etc. and some sound treatment for another 5-800 and it's gonna cost 3-5 grand...

The real question is "How much do you have to spend here?"

Jacob
 
breeeeza said:
Yer i was thinking about getting the 'b control' :eek: All my money can get me.

What do you mostly use the control surface for, adjusting buss volume/chanel volume, panning etc? What else can it do? If i use a software EQ can i adjust it with the control surface or just with the dreaded mouse?
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Well bear in mind I've only had it a couple of weeks so i'm still sussing out what it can do myself.

At the moment I'm really just using it for the basics- levels, panning, transport control, jog wheel etc. There are aslo F keys so you can assign those for specific things, it's great being able to 'add track' or 'show mixer' at the touch of a button.

I'm not sure about eq and vst effects, there's a midi control mode where you can programme it to control vsti's so you should be able do the same with effects. After all it's just a case of sending midi messages from the chosen encoders to the software. There's a vertical row of 4 pots which would be perfect for the task. I might try this out later actually.

I decided to jump on one because the price has come down again recently, they can be had for £450 over here now, I've seen them sold by authorised dealers on ebay in the US for around $550-$600.
 
no im not the thing is with the firepod i already have a usb mixer the peavey one and i no i need fire wire its also what i want but i will have this spare mixer just sitting around is there anyway to changed my usb mixer into a firewire mixer maby with some wireing?
 
nope, its not going to happen. Your best off selling it and starting new
 
Yeah, you don't need the mixer if you get the Firepod. Just sell it. Then you can buy a mic or something with that money.

Besides, USB is not really a preferred method for audio recording.

The Firepod is a great place to start for a damn good firewire interface. If I could have started on that, I would be a lot farther along than I am now, I'm sure. Of course, they didn't have that type of thing when I started recording.

Grab the Firepod, a few more decent mics, and some decent monitors. You'll be good to go for now. The next step would be acoustic treatment, but you don't have to think about that now.

Recording to separate tracks will work perfectly with the Firepod. All the audio travels via the firewire cable and you specify the track source in the software. For example, you tell Cubase that you have a mic plugged into input 1 of the Firepod and it records that signal.

And the Firepod probably comes with some pretty good software for free already. You can worry about a software upgrade later.
 
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yea this is kinda of topic but how do u get fuzz out of a guitar amp??
 
cake1122 said:
yea this is kinda of topic but how do u get fuzz out of a guitar amp??
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Black and Decker Dust-Buster has really worked well for me... then Liquid Pledge... yah Pledge
 
instead of repeating myself....that lost post of mine was this thread crashing and burning
 
well, my 'rack' consists of:

1- Hi wattage power amp for PA.
1- Lo wattage amp for monitors
1- headphone amp
1- compressor (for PA)
1- 8 preamp ADAT interface
1- Firewire interface
1- Power conditioner

as you can see, half of the rack is occupied with amps.. the compressor is only hooked up to my PA because i play back v-drums through it, and an occasional mic.
as far as building a rack, its not really necessary, especially if you are using a mixer. i don't do any outboard mixing, its just not necessary. Plugs that come bundled with your DAW usually work just fine.

and they dont cost alot, and they can't break and spend weeks at the techs.
 
i have the b control, the behri control surface. its cool, it works great. it even integrated with my pro tools setup, which i thought was going to be difficult. cool unit for $160 used on ebay.
 
TragikRemix said:
i have the b control, the behri control surface. its cool, it works great. it even integrated with my pro tools setup, which i thought was going to be difficult. cool unit for $160 used on ebay.
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Same here, I got mine off ebay new for $162.50 :P, works beautifuly with ProTools, I had to do a bit of reading on how to get it to work because well, behringer sucks. After that it works great, I wish I could control EQ's with it but, unless i'm missing something, it can't be done. Oh well. It's great and cheap.

It also had more buttons than I realized, a push down on the panning knob sets it to recording mode. I think it'd be better if that solo'ed it but, oh well.

-jeffrey
 
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