looking at the DMP3 or prenous bluetube DP stereo pre

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why would the vtb-1 be better for rap vocals than the dmp3 ?
 
chessrock said:
Because you guys ask for it, sometimes. :D

I'm sorry, but saying something like the dmp3 "isn't good for vocals" ... just doesn't make any sense.

What does that even mean? Jesus, guys. Yea, this mic supplies plenty of good, clean gain for a microphone. But only if that mic is pointed at a guitar or something ? ? I mean what are the chances someone is going to plug a mic in to a DMP-3, sing in to it, listen, and say ... "Na. Not quite there ..." and then switch it out in to a VTB1 and say "Oh yea ... that's it" ? ? It's just a bunch of mental masturbation passed around on message boards, because if anyone ever were to even bother, they are SO NOT going to be able to hear any meaningful difference other than maybe placebo effect caused by expectations. I'm sorry, but your monitors probably aren't there ... your ears probably aren't there ... and your testing methodology certainly the hell ain't there.

Someone even mentioned something along the lines of "don't get it if it's for rap vocals." :D Come on, guys. Knock it off. I'm sure you went and tested the dmp3 in a head-to-head shootout ... pitting rap against polka ... jazz against pop. And to the conclusion of the educated masses, it was indeed determined that the DMP3 was lacking in the rap department, but was simply the balls on New Age.

I'm not bashing anyone's gear. There's just no real substance behind half of generalized statements that you guys throw around. It's like you're just throwing words out there because they sound good

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Totally got to agree with everything said here.
 
timboZ said:
Its only better if you use a green mic cable.
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I have a black cable. Where can I get a green one? And I don't rap. Would a pink one be better? I am a screamer, so maybe a red one? C'mon TimboZ....hook me up baby. You know.... :D
 
The orange cables are definitely better for rap.

The green ones I pull out only in those special "deathmetal polka" sessions.

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chessrock said:
The orange cables are definitely better for rap.

The green ones I pull out only in those special "deathmetal polka" sessions.

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if i may ask what do the orange cables do that my monster cable doesnt
 
i completely agree with chessrock about this shit. there's way too much stressin and bullshitin over gear around here. especially over things like mic pre's. i don't blame the people that are trying to get the most for their money. i blame the people that spout off bullshit that feeds the machine.

i'm still waiting on a comparision (in another thread) between a behringer pre and a dmp3. i asked if someone would do a comparison because i'm seriously doubtful that there's much of a difference. any miniscule difference could probably be offset by any number of things like mic placement, eq, etc. hopefully it will be up soon? https://homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=190886

this reminds me of a thread in the mp3 mix clinic where a guy posted clips of two different snare drums, one cheap and one expensive. a couple of people spouted off about how much better the expensive one sounded. then he dropped the bomb and revealed that he had lied about which clip was the cheap snare and which was the expensive one. just goes to show ya.......
 
timboZ said:
Cost a lot less and sound better.
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so the organge with a vtb-1 would be better than a dmp3 with a monster cable

also why didnt they tell me the orange was better when i asked asbout cables a few months back
 
bad intentionz said:
... why didnt they tell me the orange was better when i asked asbout cables a few months back
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Because they make more commission on the green ones.

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Peavey
Color Cue 20 Foot Orange Microphone Cable

that the cables?
 
Will someone tell me when it's ok to stop being so serious? Thanks. :(
 
organge circut......................... that wasnt cool guys all i was asking for was some help thanks
 
Yep - you're right. Sorry, but now that you've been indoctrinated, welcome to the club!

P.S. I have a DMP3 and an older design Blue Tube. I like the DMP3 a lot for the money and the Blue Tube I keep around for a spare. Both work pretty well as direct boxes once you go to a better pre. I'd say its a toss up - go with your gut on it.

As far as cables, try to get the best you can afford. Monster cable is OK but you will find lots of detractors because the company hypes the product way beyond the quality level. But its pretty good stuff and better than most of the stuff I get.


If you want to experiment with really good cable, look for something like Canare brand or star quad cable. These have better conductors and lower resistance, along with good quality shielding and good build quality. One interesting factoid is that current tends to flow on the outside of a cable strand rather than with equal oomph all through the conductor. It's something called the "skin effect" (google it and skip all the juicy links - it'll be there) and it means that a multiple strand conductor, or a lower gauge conductor (bigger bunch of strands in the conductor) will have lower impedance than a conductor with fewer strands or if made of a higher gauge of copper.

So look for, say, 20 gauge instead of 22 gauge cable - the signal will be measureably better. (Whether anyone can hear the difference is a separate matter). But be careful as you can blow fifty or a hundred bucks on a cable and that just doesn't make much sense, especially starting out. I use a lot of budget cables - eight bucks a piece - because I use a boatload of cables anyway and have no budget... but my plan is to get decent materials and start building my own cables. Those will be a whole different deal.

Seriously - don't sweat the difference between the pres; either one will do fine.
 
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