Line 6 POD 2.0

[surfmaster]

i wonder how it would sound if you reamp'd a pod recording, to give it some life, through a low wattage tube amp or something. then miked it. man ive got to try that out sometime! if i can get my hands on a pod, and a tube amp

 

[bardo]

It does have a re-amp mode(I have not tried it yet)
but I hear of guy's doing what you are talking about(re-amping thru tube box)
on the POD forum to warm up the tone

 

[jeffree]

I have found the Pod can get very decent "crunch" tones which compare well to the mic'd sounds from the amps I own, although I've not always been as satisfied with clean tones (the J-Station does clean tones very well).

That's my experience, too. The POD handles certain sounds very well, but cleaner tones are not its forte. The J-Station, in contrast, does a great job with the cleaner, jazzier stuff I often do, especially if I roll off the high end a bit more than usual.

J.

 

[bongolation]

Who wants to spend days messing about with a modeler, when you can just stick a 57 up against a Frender [sic] tube amp and hit record, in the knowledge that, as long as the musician can play, it'll sound great?

One might want to have more than one amateur sound that's already a cliche.

Rarely, if ever, is a pro-recorded guitar track quite as simple as that, either -- even if the unwitting artist believes it is.

If you get good -- truly expert -- with a modeler you can save an immense amount of time in the studio, which is why they are prevalent among those pros who record demo/concept tracks to shop around as well as those who do budget ephemeral broadcast production. A heavily-programmed softsynth and modeler are giant efficiency items.

 

[Codmate]

One might want to have more than one amateur sound that's already a cliche.

Rarely, if ever, is a pro-recorded guitar track quite as simple as that, either -- even if the unwitting artist believes it is.

If you get good -- truly expert -- with a modeler you can save an immense amount of time in the studio, which is why they are prevalent among those pros who record demo/concept tracks to shop around as well as those who do budget ephemeral broadcast production. A heavily-programmed softsynth and modeler are giant efficiency items.

Well if you believe that you can only make one sound with a mic on an amp then you're misguided to begin with.

Whether what comes out of the speaker is cliched or not depends on the muscian.

I can make an infinate range of tones with that simple combination of gear - certainly many more *musical* ones than I've heard come out of a modeler.

Modelers just don't respond musically. I don't care how 'well programmed' one is. I've never used one that could respond to what I was doing in an analogue way.

Sure - modelers have their uses as effects and sound-shaping tools, but if an engineer tried to make me use one in the studio or live I'd walk straight out the door

As for saving time...
Well, it takes me about one minute to put a mic on my amp.

 

[amra]

'Respond musically'? WTF is that?
I just need an amp or amp modeler or whatever the hell it is, to amplify a freakin signal coming out of my guitar. That's all.

I prefer to handle the 'musically' part myself....

 

[Codmate]

'Respond musically'? WTF is that?
I just need an amp or amp modeler or whatever the hell it is, to amplify a freakin signal coming out of my guitar. That's all.

I prefer to handle the 'musically' part myself....

I would have thought it was self-explanitory...
...as in - respond in a musical fasion.
The way a good amplifier will and the way a modeler won't.

For instance - I play loud, a loud sound comes out of my amp.
I pick in a certain way, my amp responds *musically*.

These things don't happen to the same extent with modelers.
A good amp is part of your instrument. A modeler does just amplify the signal (and screw with it digitally to a degree - depending on how it's been programmed).

That's the simplest way I can think of explaining it.

Go and test a clean sound on a tube amp against a clean sound on a modeler.
That's going to be the best way for you to understand what I'm talking about.

 

[amra]

I hear the difference between a tube amp and a modeler. I just don't get this 'respond musically' thing.

Every amp I have played, whether tube, solid state or modeled all made music when connected to my guitar. I like to think that the music comes from me, and my hands - instead of some electronic device, whether it runs on vacuum tubes or IC chips....that's the point I am making. I just don't see how you need help from said device to try to make your stuff sound 'musical'.

Either it already is, when it comes out of your guitar, or it will never be...

 

[Codmate]

I hear the difference between a tube amp and a modeler. I just don't get this 'respond musically' thing.

Every amp I have played, whether tube, solid state or modeled all made music when connected to my guitar. I like to think that the music comes from me, and my hands - instead of some electronic device, whether it runs on vacuum tubes or IC chips....that's the point I am making. I just don't see how you need help from said device to try to make your stuff sound 'musical'.

Either it already is, when it comes out of your guitar, or it will never be...

OK - here's an example.
If I have my amp's volume at it's 'sweet spot', just as it's breaking up, and I pick hard I'll get a raw bluesy crunch from the amp. If I pick softly I get a mellow round mostly-clean tone.

Try this with a modeler and it will do precisely nothing.
It won't respond to the way I pick, or even my guitar's volume in some cases.

A good amp becomes part of your instrument.
Since my guitar responds musically, why can't my amp?
It certainly makes a hell of a difference to my guitar sound's dynamic range and timbre - which is two quarters of what constitutes music to begin with.

Sure - the music is coming from me ultimatly - but the more musical my tools, the more opportunities I have for expression.