ez_willis
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lol. i don't need to post my music on these boards to have dorks like you tell me how great i am. i already know. i still do post 'em though. damn near everything i've ever recorded is online and available for free.
lol. i don't need to post my music on these boards to have dorks like you tell me how great i am. i already know. i still do post 'em though. damn near everything i've ever recorded is online and available for free.
kcearl
I see deaf people
see, i found that to be hilarious.
beggars belief how up themselves some folks are
I thought it was only rappers, turns out its out of tune Albanian folk singers as well
ez_willis
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i ain't gonna argue with you. and your opinion of what i do means absolutely nothing to me after hearing what i just heard. sorry, jackass.
kcearl
I see deaf people
miro I dont like either of the styles you guys play, and undoubtedly you are by far a better musician/engineer than I am. But Ill give EZ the win on talent and my breakfast was more original than some of those tunes
and it was toast and peanut butter with a black coffee
miroslav
Cosmic Cowboy
miroslav
Cosmic Cowboy
Not sure what talent you're refering to???
Oh...you mean the blah, blah, blah...
...'cuz I ain't heard nothing else from him.
kcearl
I see deaf people
Not sure what talent you're refering to???
Oh...you mean the blah, blah, blah...
...'cuz I ain't heard nothing else from him.
Ive heard his stuff, kinda raw, kinda punky...pretty solid Californian sound
mshilarious
Banned
Dude, seriously, quit while you are way behind. ez and I, at various times in our lives, have earned our living either playing music professionally or designing and building electronics. If you heard ez's publicly available stuff (and I ain't gonna link it for you 
), you would yield immediately. We ain't exactly pikers.
), you would yield immediately. We ain't exactly pikers.
miroslav
Cosmic Cowboy
I musta' missed that recital...
I don't mind people busting balls out of fun...and I don't mind people not liking the same styles of music...it’s a subjective thing.
But when folks stoop to junior high level mocking and personal attacks in order to win a debate about something silly, then that tells me they really ain't got nothing more to show....'cuz if they did...they would.
I guess some guys like to keep their fantastic talents and creativity hidden in their basements...and then just talk a good game in public.
miroslav
Cosmic Cowboy
Dude, seriously, quit while you are way behind. ez and I, at various times in our lives, have earned our living either playing music professionally or designing and building electronics. If you heard ez's publicly available stuff (and I ain't gonna link it for you
Not sure why you're pulling yourself into this...I've not made any comments about your talents or you being a "piker"...???
AFA "making a living playing music professionally"...been there, done that...and the forums are FULL of guys who can say that (and most do).
In any artistic community...if you crack on someone's work (especially in a mocking way), then you need to put up...or STFU.
I've seen too many guys tell stories on forums about all the albums they've worked on or name acts they've worked with...etc, etc, etc...but for some reason, they choose never to put anything up to support that.
mshilarious
Banned
Mmmm . . . he didn't exactly hide in his basement, if you catch my drift
Also, I didn't say anything about quality, mainly because I don't really care. Actually, I used your track to play with my VST compressor, which is coming along slowly, but it's fun to play with. Still has bugs, but I'll let you see it if you like.
Anyway: technical question, what was the recording chain for that guitar?
Also, I didn't say anything about quality, mainly because I don't really care. Actually, I used your track to play with my VST compressor, which is coming along slowly, but it's fun to play with. Still has bugs, but I'll let you see it if you like.
Anyway: technical question, what was the recording chain for that guitar?
miroslav
Cosmic Cowboy
Mmmm . . . he didn't exactly hide in his basement, if you catch my drift
..............
Anyway: technical question, what was the recording chain for that guitar?
It's a metaphor...(and remember, he turned it personal…then ducked).
.........
Guitar chain for what song...?...(I've lost track in all this forum excitement).
I can check my session notes.
mshilarious
Banned
Nah dude, he didn't duck, he just didn't feel like the kill.
Uh, "We Got Something".
Uh, "We Got Something".
miroslav
Cosmic Cowboy
He's been trying to for 6 pages...and then what, decided NOT to at this point?
He just ran out of game!
I'll get back to you on the guitar chain a bit later...I have to go find the session notes in the studio.
What kind of VST comp is it...multi-band...basic...?
Do one that beats out the Wave L2 Maximizer type. They only sell that shit as part of full bundles...and I just want the comp/limiter.
He just ran out of game!
I'll get back to you on the guitar chain a bit later...I have to go find the session notes in the studio.
What kind of VST comp is it...multi-band...basic...?
Do one that beats out the Wave L2 Maximizer type. They only sell that shit as part of full bundles...and I just want the comp/limiter.
mshilarious
Banned
Nah, more like a Fairchild. I am trying to replace the aspects of the UAD plugs that I don't like. Vari-mu, M/S processing if desired (single set of controls though), four saturation models (including none). It can kinda do limiting, but it's not look-ahead, and since it's vari-mu the ratio doesn't get high until you way overshoot the threshold, at which point there's going to be a very high amount of not particularly good distortion (odd-order way on up). So really only good for 1 or 2dB of limiting. See, the UAD Precision Limiter is really good at that, so I didn't go for look-ahead (which adds lots of DSP and of course latency). I just want a fix for some stuff that didn't work in the Fairchild, and I wanted a smaller GUI (I hate big VSTs).
So then I can stick this on a guitar track with an overdrive circuit model and generate a fat amount of second and third harmonics, and feel that into UAD Nigel, thereby avoiding the problem with Nigel's almost total lack of even-order distortion (good cab models and effects though).
See, these are the sort of issues that modelers can have--designers asleep at the wheel. Strange, but true.
So then I can stick this on a guitar track with an overdrive circuit model and generate a fat amount of second and third harmonics, and feel that into UAD Nigel, thereby avoiding the problem with Nigel's almost total lack of even-order distortion (good cab models and effects though).
See, these are the sort of issues that modelers can have--designers asleep at the wheel. Strange, but true.
miroslav
Cosmic Cowboy
Found my sessions notes...
The guitar was an Artcore AG85 - semi-hollow, bubinga wood. I used the neck PU.
The mic was a Groove Tubes AM62 multi-pattern tube mic, set on cardioid at about 18" from a 15" Cerwin Vega bass-reflex cabinet speaker.
The mic went into a Sebatron preamp, with Lo-Cut and Bright switches on...and that went into a VLA comp set for a -10 Threshold and 3:1 compression.
The amp was an Epi Valve Junior Head, which I had just gotten at the time and was messing around with it. It's a 5W EL84 head...and I had it set pretty much on full-tilt.
The VJ ain't what I would call a stellar tube amp...but it does some darker crunch OK...though as you can see, I ended up taking out the Lows and boosting the Bright...so I'm sure that combination is why it's not very "tube amp" sounding in the mix.
Not to mention, there was EQ processing done during the mixdown...and then again during the mastering.
And oh...the audio files of my website that you are messing with are MP3 files...and I applied the Waves L2 during mastering...so I don't think it's a great choice for testing out your VST as there's already been compression applied a couple of times throughout the recording chain.
You’ll probably do better with some “raw/virgin” audio files.
When your VST comp is ready...I'll be happy to give it a test drive if you like...I tend to use mostly outboard processing when I mix, though lately I've been using the DAW stuff more and more...and of course, the final mastering is in the DAW.
The guitar was an Artcore AG85 - semi-hollow, bubinga wood. I used the neck PU.
The mic was a Groove Tubes AM62 multi-pattern tube mic, set on cardioid at about 18" from a 15" Cerwin Vega bass-reflex cabinet speaker.
The mic went into a Sebatron preamp, with Lo-Cut and Bright switches on...and that went into a VLA comp set for a -10 Threshold and 3:1 compression.
The amp was an Epi Valve Junior Head, which I had just gotten at the time and was messing around with it. It's a 5W EL84 head...and I had it set pretty much on full-tilt.
The VJ ain't what I would call a stellar tube amp...but it does some darker crunch OK...though as you can see, I ended up taking out the Lows and boosting the Bright...so I'm sure that combination is why it's not very "tube amp" sounding in the mix.
Not to mention, there was EQ processing done during the mixdown...and then again during the mastering.
And oh...the audio files of my website that you are messing with are MP3 files...and I applied the Waves L2 during mastering...so I don't think it's a great choice for testing out your VST as there's already been compression applied a couple of times throughout the recording chain.
You’ll probably do better with some “raw/virgin” audio files.
When your VST comp is ready...I'll be happy to give it a test drive if you like...I tend to use mostly outboard processing when I mix, though lately I've been using the DAW stuff more and more...and of course, the final mastering is in the DAW.
ez_willis
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i want. just finished tracking guitars for a song. will be mixing shortly. i KNOW that thing will rock, but i'd love to see how hard.
austinm08
the pigeon knows the way.
So I ventured in here, interested to see what the buzz was on this "Line 6 turning the mic world upside down" claim, quickly having my attention pulled to the argument between miroslav and EZ..
What was the point in dragging that on and on? And then this little "I'm more creative than you" thing at the end? This is sad!
It's beyond me...
What was the point in dragging that on and on? And then this little "I'm more creative than you" thing at the end? This is sad!
It's beyond me...
M
MCI2424
New member
No. Here is the press release:
Line Six has come out with another useless piece of shit designed to part home recorders with their money. The theory is :"blah-blah fuckin useless blah with-all-the-coined-phrases blah mic impulses of the U87 and U47 cannot-tell-the-difference blah"
With all the realality of Line Six's great guitar/bass/vocal/everything under the sun emulations, I cannot see why this new mic won't be a great new invention.
TAE
All you have is now
Not sure what talent you're refering to???
...'cuz I ain't heard nothing else from him.
The dude toured the states in a rock band called the "Poor Boys" and got paid for it. He must of been doing something right. Joes a damn fine musician.
I'm not going to put you down cause you do what you do and thats fine. I wouldn't recommend quitting your day job just yet but hell maybe there's a market for your stuff somewhere out there.
I started the thread because the person that told me about it knows his shit about gear and sound way more than 99% of the people that hang here. He told me this was going to be a big thing and I shared the news.
You came in and expressed your opinion on modeling and then went off on guitar modeling and how you can't imagine recording or playing live with modeling gear. I gave you the is it live or is it memorex analogy which you blew right by. From there it was plain to see there was no middle ground to be found, we are on opposite sides of the fence on this topic. Oh Blah de Oh blah dah
Mic modeling is part of the allure of this new product, the proprietary wireless is an equally important attribute.
We'll see how it does when gets out there over the next year. Maybe it is something really cool, maybe it's just another evil ploy of the capitalistic music equipment industry again trying to squeeze every last red cent out of poor hand to mouth musicians trying to scratch their way to the big time and grab that golden (you're gonna be a big star) ring in the sky.