Line 6 is going to turn the mic world upside down

[miroslav]

So . . . which statement is correct? Or do you believe those two statements are internally consistent?

How about these guys, they are wearing regular clothes and the singer likes to turn around and hide from the audience while he mumbles his lyrics? But hey, Fender Twin, so probably they are OK

You're not reading it the way I'm saying it 'cuz you keep slicing everything out of context. I'll try one more time....

When I say I don't care what others use...that means I'm not trying to force anyone to use the gear I use...I'm not going to lose sleep over it...
...however, I DO look at a band as a complete act, so to me it matters because that's how I will judge them.


You say it as though I would walk into a club and look at the band like they were just a picture (like you're showing here)...and then depending on what I see in the still picture...I would decide if I like them or not.
As though the decision is made in the first 3 seconds...

It's an overall perspective based on both listening to them play and watching them and their stage presence, and stage presence isn’t’ JUST about how they move…it’s the whole package.
But no...it's not oh look, the guitar player has a Matchless...therefore he must be good"...
...that's dumb, if you think that's what I'm saying.

Maybe you're on to something there.

If you can’t see that in all the different periods that those pictures were taken…the band has a rather similar look and they are dressed in a specific style…which was always recognized as the punk look and many other bands who played punk, followed a similar look.
It’s not much different than the Beatles in their uniforms from the early days.
Just like the Metal guys have their look…and the Country guys have theirs…etc.

It’s not a question of dressing up in costumes (though for some bands it is)…the point is that the band is bringing both music and visual style to the stage.
Bands that just dress like they pulled something out of a hamper…have NO style.
Point is…IMO a band should bring something to the stage that will be visually and sonically entertaining/appealing/interesting (take your pick)…and the better bands generally do both.

Look at all the pro acts out there...they bring visual style to the stage in most cases, and that also includes their gear...with the exception of some Grung/Alt acts, though even they maintain their Grunge/Alt look, so they've basically turned it into a uniform look that goes with their music.

 

[mshilarious]

So, miro, what's your style? Do you wear a uniform, or are you a creative person?

Also, psych pretty much demonstrates that we form a strong impression within the first three seconds of meeting someone, so I would have to disagree with your there. Without a visual, maybe 10 seconds of music. Sometimes a song will take longer to get going, but we've still formed an impression in a few seconds; in that case, the impression will be "this better get good enough to make the wait worthwhile." And then sometimes it is; sometimes it isn't.

 

[miroslav]

No...I never wore a "uniform"… ...but there have always been specific "looks" that have gone with certain styles of music. If you say you never noticed...maybe you weren't paying enough attention.

Again...you can split hairs finer and finer, even down to single words now...
....but that won't change that fact. The way a band looks on stage has an effect.

Most known, popular bands (in ANY genre) always have a "look" to go with their music...and often that look is something meant to add to and enhance/support their music, not take away from it.
Sure...if you dig around enough you'll find the occasional "bum" looking band that dressed out of the dirty clothes hamper, and with a crappy stage presence that happens to sound “terrific”...but it's rare. A crappy looking band with crappy looking or limited equipment...usually sounds crappy.
A band "look" can be as basic as shirts-n-jeans. It's in how you wear them (that's the creative part )...that can either have style or not…and that goes for the entire vibe on stage.

But this is now going way off tangent from the "Pod" discussions...maybe a new thread is in order...?

AFA my style...it varies.
With recording, I get into a lot of different stuff as I like most kinds of music...but if I went back out with a gig band today, I would probably lean more towards Rock/Blues...and I don't mean just the popular/typical covers that most bands do in clubs.

 

[crazydoc]

Bands that just dress like they pulled something out of a hamper…have NO style.


Look at all the pro acts out there...they bring visual style to the stage in most cases, and that also includes their gear....

Exactly. If I saw a scuzzball like this come out on stage, I'd be outta there before he could piss in my direction.

 

[miroslav]

Your missing the point...it's about style, it's not about being clean-cut and neatly dressed.

Willie has style and his bands have style...and just 'cuz Willie uses a beat up old acoustic guitar, I doubt his bands have crap gear.

 

[mshilarious]

But the truly creative create their style, both musical and visual. Since that does not follow an accepted pattern, how can you judge a band based on appearance? Heavy metal bands didn't always wear leather, and most don't anymore. At least after they figured out the reason why they were wearing leather was the same reason that the guy in the Village People did

In the end, appearance only matters to kids who are looking for a fashion to follow. That was very long ago for me. I still like to hear new, fresh music, but I'm going to wear Hawaiian shirts all summer long no matter what the latest style is


PS Creative people don't worry about staying on-topic

 

[crazydoc]

Your missing the point...it's about style, it's not about being clean-cut and neatly dressed.

Willie has style and his bands have style...and just 'cuz Willie uses a beat up old acoustic guitar, I doubt his bands have crap gear.

I think you're missing the point - NO STYLE is a style.

And besides, it's the music that counts most, not the show. I still listen to LP's and CD's, and they say lots of folks listen to MP3's. No show or visual style there.

Anyway, I was just funnin' ya.

 

[miroslav]

Heavy metal bands didn't always wear leather, and most don't anymore. At least after they figured out the reason why they were wearing leather was the same reason that the guy in the Village People did

Most times, you can still tell the music a band is going to make.... just by their garb.

And hey...I've been at the heart of this off-topic discussion...so does that make me the most creative one here...?!

I just thought a new thread might work better as I didn't want to piss off the Line 6/pod people any further!!!

I think you're missing the point - NO STYLE is a style.

I know what you mean...but that's like the guys who say their shit sounds like crap 'cuz they were:
"going for a Lo-Fi sound"

Right!!!

And yeah...I'm just funnin' too...we're cool.

 

[ez_willis]

And hey...I've been at the heart of this off-topic discussion...so does that make me the most creative one here...?!

bwahahaaahahahaaa!!!!!!!!!!

dude, i just clicked on the link in your signature(because you haven't posted in the clinic). i can guarantee that you aren't the most creative person here. or talented. or stylish. in fact, don't ever address me again you f*cking dork!

folks, seriously, here's a sample of miroslav's "music". click on the link. it's only 30 seconds or so. your instinct is going to be to turn it off before it gets to the singing, but fight the urge. trust me on this.

 

[ez_willis]

your instinct is going to be to turn it off before it gets to the singing, but fight the urge.

really. just hang in there, guys.

 

[mshilarious]

I wouldn't have guessed that was a tube amp; sounds totally like a tone easily obtained with a transistor amp, and an opamp transistor amp at that. Especially right at 4:80 (and other places), there is sudden clipping with lots of higher-order partials. Not saying it's good, bad, or indifferent, but I know I don't need a tube amp to get that sound.

 

[ez_willis]

I wouldn't have guessed that was a tube amp; sounds totally like a tone easily obtained with a transistor amp, and an opamp transistor amp at that. Especially right at 4:80 (and other places), there is sudden clipping with lots of higher-order partials. Not saying it's good, bad, or indifferent, but I know I don't need a tube amp to get that sound.

if i were him i'd first worry about finding the right notes before even worrying about tone.

 

[miroslav]

i can guarantee that you aren't the most creative person here. or talented. or stylish. in fact, don't ever address me again you f*cking dork!

The "most creative" comment was just kidding around within the context of this thread....but you're obviously too stupid to figure it out (no surprise).
But I appreciate you promoting my album on the forum...just don't act like you found out something I was keeping a secret!
My website and my sig-link have been there for a long time now…pay attention.

AFA creativity...you're not even in the same ballpark I'm in, but I know you'll never get that (and I don’t much care if you don’t).
I play all the instruments (except drums)…all the lead vocals…do all the recording…and design the CD layout and graphics.
The album, the music and the overall layout was for a specific purpose...it's comprised of typical MOR Pop/Rock music as I'm trying to sell the songs to the MOR crowd…
…your just trying to impress your local bar buddies and the forum crowd (and I ain’t even seen that).
I do all kinds of music, and each project is a different flavor with a different target purpose.
And since you’re so interested in my stuff…keep an eye out…I'll be putting up some YouTube video clips real soon with some guitar playing, I’m sure you’ll have some critique about them too.
Oh…and if you want to hear the compete songs off my current album (since you seem upset you only got to hear the short clips)...go to MySpace.com/miroslavmusic they are complete there.
You may not like the particular style of music…but at least I have something more to show than just a lot of blah, blah, blah on forum threads!

So now tell me….WTF fantastic creativity or completed, full-tilt projects do you have to show for the 8 years you’ve been hanging on these forums? Unless YOU’RE keeping it a secret…nothing….so STFU.
You’re just one of the thousands of dudes that spends years hanging on forums and talking shit…but with never much of anything to show.
And you wanna talk about MY creativity?!

C'mon...point me to your creativity and playing...let's hear it.

 

[kcearl]

My pod cant get a better tone

 

[ez_willis]

don't ever address me again you f*cking dork!

i'll let this slide just this one time.

AFA creativity...you're not even in the same ballpark I'm in. I play all the instruments (except drums)…all the lead vocals…do all the recording…and design the CD layout and graphics.

i do all that AND record my own drums, which is harder to do than any other instrument.

i'm not reading any more of that nonsense. seriously dude, you suck.

have a nice day arguing with somebody, somewhere. dipshit.

 

[miroslav]

I wouldn't have guessed that was a tube amp; sounds totally like a tone easily obtained with a transistor amp, and an opamp transistor amp at that. Especially right at 4:80 (and other places), there is sudden clipping with lots of higher-order partials. Not saying it's good, bad, or indifferent, but I know I don't need a tube amp to get that sound.

You are listening to a guitar that is part of a rather dense mix.
I think I've said it a few times already that just listening to a finished mix and trying to pick out what the guitar was played through isn't something most anyone can do...and that's NOT the point.

It's the playing part (and that's what most tube amp users are talking about). When you are with the guitar and amp you can hear/feel a difference with a tube amps VS pods and SS amps.
If you can't...then use the pods and transistors.

 

[kcearl]

you're not even in the same ballpark I'm in

wow


Ive had my differences with you in the past but I know that was partially me being a dick...but this takes the biscuit mate..

 

[ez_willis]

wow


Ive had my differences with you in the past but I know that was partially me being a dick...but this takes the biscuit mate..

see, i found that to be hilarious.

 

[miroslav]

i'm not reading any more of that nonsense. seriously dude, you suck.

have a nice day arguing with somebody, somewhere. dipshit.

Just like a figured...

First you resort to a half-assed personal attack (how original)...I guess that's the "Hate Maker" part of your forum handle....
...then when I ask to hear and see some of YOUR creativity and playing...
...you decide to duck away.

Thanks for confirming what I already suspected...you're just a forum blow-hard with nothing to really show other than....blah, blah, blah.
Don't go away mad now...just go away.

I'll keep you posted on the YT videos and my next album project now that I know you're a fan.

 

[miroslav]

Ive had my differences with you in the past but I know that was partially me being a dick...but this takes the biscuit mate..

Well...he ain't showing me anything...so what ballpark is he in???