Led Zep cover

[heatmiser]

Unfortunately, all the links are changed. I don't even have any trace of the old version, including the guitar tracks. All evidense has been destroyed.

I never keep anything.

Cool. To be honest. I listened for a bit and then thought I'd try the mix at the top again to compare, but they sounded awfully similar, so I was worried after all this you'd achieved the same sound!

From memory, I think this sounds a lot better. It's got more depth and texture to the sound. I feel like I can hear the pick attack more (like the scratchy bits just as you're hitting a chord). I think maybe going forward with this amp, you can get away with more gain than you could before without having to worry so much about fizzyness or buzz or whatever.

 

[ido1957]

Excellent Rami - the vocals are fabulous. !!!

 

[RAMI]

I know our amps are vastly different, but just for sharing of ideas/details, I typically run my bass around 7, mids around 7, treb around 4 or 5, presence on 0, and master vol way up. With a bright mic placement, I think I get a pretty balanced sound most of the time.

Thanx, that's good to know. Maybe I shouldn't be so scared of bass on a guitar.

Just as a point of reference, listen to the first few seconds of this. It starts with guitar right away. Is that not a bass heavy sound? I hear rumbling with every note. Or am I hearing it "wrong"?
Fender Super Champ X2 Documentary-Style Demo - YouTube

those high vocals Awesome cover Rami.

The wife just came to my office door and shook it a bit. I just might get lucky tonight. Thanx!

I'm not trying to criticise your playing, great job. But, maybe try more of a staccato(?) on the first part of the guitar riff.

instead of Da-da Da-da Da

More of a Dadada Dadada Da

gives it more movement

Make sense? At least that is what i'm hearing when I listen to the original.

Apologies if i'm out of line. Again, great job.

Thanx a lot Mick. No, not out of line at all, it's much appreciated and you're right. I think the first time I played this riff, I played it right. But I ended up playing this riff so many times that I might have lost the feel of it and I'm just playing it robotically now. If I re-record it, I'll keep that in mind. Thanx for the listen and comments.

Cool. To be honest. I listened for a bit and then thought I'd try the mix at the top again to compare, but they sounded awfully similar, so I was worried after all this you'd achieved the same sound!

From memory, I think this sounds a lot better. It's got more depth and texture to the sound. I feel like I can hear the pick attack more (like the scratchy bits just as you're hitting a chord). I think maybe going forward with this amp, you can get away with more gain than you could before without having to worry so much about fizzyness or buzz or whatever.

Thanx Heat. Yeah, I'm getting sounds out of this that I was never able to get with my Peavey. Been playing with it all day, and I think I need to go to the doctor. I've had an erection for over 4 hours now.

Excellent Rami - the vocals are fabulous. !!!

Thanx buddy!

 

[Telegram Sam]

CUSTARD PIE

Damn.

I listened to the first one, it didn't sound like this.

That's really good!

I think, if anything, you could bring up the lead guitar and give it more top end bite.

The rhythm section is rock solid, the vocals are bomb.

Is the second instrument a guitar or a keyboard?

How did you do it? It sounds a lot like the original.

 

[RAMI]

Damn.

I listened to the first one, it didn't sound like this.

That's really good!

I think, if anything, you could bring up the lead guitar and give it more top end bite.

The rhythm section and the vocals are the bomb.

Is the second instrument a guitar or a keyboard?

How did you do it?

It sounds a lot like the original.

Thanx a lot TS.

I'll keep that in mind about the lead when I re-mix this. Thanx for the tip.

The second instrument is supposed to be a clavinet on the original. What I did was play it on guitar, put it through an octaver to get it an octave lower, then I mixed the original and octave together. It was the closest I could get without a keyboard.

Thanx again man.

 

[Telegram Sam]

The second instrument is supposed to be a clavinet on the original. What I did was play it on guitar, put it through an octaver to get it an octave lower, then I mixed the original and octave together. It was the closest I could get without a keyboard.

I love learning stuff like this, thank you.

 

[Greg_L]

Thanx, that's good to know. Maybe I shouldn't be so scared of bass on a guitar.

Just as a point of reference, listen to the first few seconds of this. It starts with guitar right away. Is that not a bass heavy sound? I hear rumbling with every note. Or am I hearing it "wrong"?
Fender Super Champ X2 Documentary-Style Demo - YouTube

That is a pretty heavy sound, but keep in mind that for one, it's a lot of gain and it's low volume with just a room mic or the camera mic - you can hear the picking - and two, the rumble and woof you hear in a solo'd guitar track kind of fades into the mix most of the time once it's all rolling along. Same with the hiss of the high end. It's not unlike a ringing tom or snare. By itself, it might be nervewracking, but in the mix, it gives character. The rumble and hiss in a guitar track gives it body and presence in the mix. If you go for a "finished" sound right from the source it can often sound thin in the mix because it's lacking the basic elements that make it what it is.

 

[RAMI]

That is a pretty heavy sound, but keep in mind that for one, it's a lot of gain and it's low volume with just a room mic or the camera mic - you can hear the picking - and two, the rumble and woof you hear in a solo'd guitar track kind of fades into the mix most of the time once it's all rolling along. Same with the hiss of the high end. It's not unlike a ringing tom or snare. By itself, it might be nervewracking, but in the mix, it gives character. The rumble and hiss in a guitar track gives it body and presence in the mix. If you go for a "finished" sound right from the source it can often sound thin in the mix because it's lacking the basic elements that make it what it is.

Man, that is such an eye-opening answer. Now I understand what I should be going for. I was sort of taking the "get as close to how you want it to sound before even recording, etc...." maybe a bit too literally and too far. The anoalogy with how drums sound solo'd compared to in the mix is perfect.

I should start paying you for this shit....but I won't.

 

[Greg_L]

Man, that is such an eye-opening answer. Now I understand what I should be going for. I was sort of taking the "get as close to how you want it to sound before even recording, etc...." maybe a bit too literally and too far. The anoalogy with how drums sound solo'd compared to in the mix is perfect.

I should start paying you for this shit....but I won't.

Lol. I accept cash, check, or money order. Call now, operators are standing by!

 

[RAMI]

Lol. I accept cash, check, or money order. Call now, operators are standing by!

Hey, speaking of standing by, this amp doesn't have one. Can I leave this thing on all night? It's got 2 6V6 tubes in it. Can I leave a tube amp on? And is there anything I should do, like turn it on 15 minutes before playing or anything like that?

 

[Greg_L]

Hey, speaking of standing by, this amp doesn't have one. Can I leave this thing on all night? It's got 2 6V6 tubes in it. Can I leave a tube amp on? And is there anything I should do, like turn it on 15 minutes before playing or anything like that?

Without a standby, I wouldn't leave it on all night. Tubes have a shelf-life and leaving it on unnecessarily eats away at them. As for warming it up, you shouldn't need much more than 3-5 minutes. I usually fire mine up before I do anything, then get everything set up to record. By the time the mic is in place, the DAW is open, the guitar is tuned, and I've got the track ready to go, the amp is ready to rock.

 

[RAMI]

I can't get enough of this thing. I haven't enjoyed playing guitar this much in years. I have the volume down on the amp and I'm jamming to random tunes on Youtube and loving it. Should have done this years ago.

 

[joeym]

I really dig this, Rami....and I don't really hear a problem with the guitar sound.
This is your version and there's no law saying it should sound just like the original. I thought you made a great job of the vocals, everyone and his dog knows how hard it is to sing like Plant And regarding the drums, it's your sound and not Bonham's kit or the studio Zep recorded it in. I wish I could tell you what to do better, but I think it's good the way it is.
But in the end, it's you who has to be happy with it.

 

[Telegram Sam]

Rami, What do you use to monitor your mixes?

 

[RAMI]

Rami, What do you use to monitor your mixes?

Hehe....Nothing much.

I have a REALISTIC receiver and a pair of little HITACHI home stereo speakers. My next purchase will be good monitors. My room is well treated, but I need good monitors.

 

[GroovySlick]

I know this is a little late (hey, I work for a livin', too, you know), but I just wanna say that, having listened to that whole side of Physical Graffitti a hundred times to get me through my parent's divorce back in the '70s, I really enjoyed listening to your cover of Custard Pie. If someone in the home recording realm can come up with something that good on that song (including your vocals, impressive pipes!), then the world shall not be a'crashin' and a'burnin' just yet (not to bring up a Pat Travers reference, but hey, I got a million of 'em...)

 

[Anfontan]

This tune really rocks Rami, definitely a favorite from the Physical Graffitti album. I have to say that your vocal is amazing on this song-I saw Zepplin live on the Physical Graffitti tour and Plant didn't sound as good as you do on this!

The new amp sounds very sweet, probably a lot like my Music Man 65 amp, it has a 1/2 power switch that really beefs up the overdrive without blowing out peoples ear drums.

The solos could use a bit more mid & high end but thats just my opinion-and a Les Paul would make a world of difference-but Jimmy Page used a Tele on the entire first Zep album and used a Danelectro on most slide tunes. One thing I really missed was Robert Plant's harmonica solo-but that was no big deal though.

I enjoyed your version of this song quite a lot.

Marvelous job!

 

[RAMI]

I know this is a little late (hey, I work for a livin', too, you know), but I just wanna say that, having listened to that whole side of Physical Graffitti a hundred times to get me through my parent's divorce back in the '70s, I really enjoyed listening to your cover of Custard Pie. If someone in the home recording realm can come up with something that good on that song (including your vocals, impressive pipes!), then the world shall not be a'crashin' and a'burnin' just yet (not to bring up a Pat Travers reference, but hey, I got a million of 'em...)

Pat Trevers! Yes, i forgot about him.

Thanx a lot for the compliments and comments, man. Yes, I think there is still hope in the world, though I wouldn't place that hope on the music industry.

This tune really rocks Rami, definitely a favorite from the Physical Graffitti album. I have to say that your vocal is amazing on this song-I saw Zepplin live on the Physical Graffitti tour and Plant didn't sound as good as you do on this!

The new amp sounds very sweet, probably a lot like my Music Man 65 amp, it has a 1/2 power switch that really beefs up the overdrive without blowing out peoples ear drums.

The solos could use a bit more mid & high end but thats just my opinion-and a Les Paul would make a world of difference-but Jimmy Page used a Tele on the entire first Zep album and used a Danelectro on most slide tunes. One thing I really missed was Robert Plant's harmonica solo-but that was no big deal though.

I enjoyed your version of this song quite a lot.

Marvelous job!

Hey Anfontan. How are you man?

Thanx a lot. I agree that the solo sounds lack a lot of stuff. I re-did the rythm guitars with my new amp, but the "solos" are the old sound, so you're hearing right.

Thanx a lot.

 

[queepy]

Just checked out the version with your new amp.....sounds great...dug the version before, but this definetly improves....Im about to pull the trigger on a Blackstar ht 60 2x12 combo myself, and get back to some tube action....look forward to hearing your new amp on your original stuff...gonna rock for sure!

 

[CoolCat]

Hehe....Nothing much.

I have a REALISTIC receiver and a pair of little HITACHI home stereo speakers. My next purchase will be good monitors. My room is well treated, but I need good monitors.

It sounds great, as your tracks always do.
Your stuff was always a positive for the HR ability, one of the top tunesmiths..er..or recordingsmiths... imo.
The levels were right where the pro-tunes are according to my playback units.
great clarity and mix was really there. it has a very polished sound, not sure whether you edit that all out later or just have a clarity while you track, but its noticeable a higher quality than most imo.

Your monitoring setup seems to be transferring really well. imo..