KRK RP5 vs. Yorkville YSM2P

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COOLCAT said:
I Better that its not there at all I guess, to eliminate surprises on other systems?
Exactly.
Or let the mastering engineer take care of the flubby/wrong bass later on and make him work a little more than usual so you feel less guilt when comes time to pay him the big bucks he's asking.
Problem with NS10 and the like, is that everything under 60Hz (maybe 70Hz) is NOT there (you can't hear it or feel it)..so you waste a lot of the mix's energy in there which makes it harder to push to -7 dBRMS to compete if there is flabby things going down low.
 
TheDewd said:
I use a High quality flat and accurate headphone system.
Not those "toy" monitoring headphones you find in most studio.
I currently have some Sennheiser HD600 and Beyer DT880 (ancient generation).
Both these are extremely flat and accurate (as said by many on www.headfi.com and www.headphone.com).
As for amps, I build my own headphone amps, all class A using premium components.
I also plan on getting an even "flatter" pair of phones, the Sony SA5000 as soon as I get some more money. Maybe AKG K701 would be good too :D
My speaker monitoring rig consists of a Crown DC150 hooked to two JBL 4311 which (to my ears) sound and translate fantastic.
I hate nearfields and in order to get a nice bass going on, you have to use headphones or AT LEAST a 12 inch woofer or small thingies with a sub. but I hate subs as wou nearly always have a "hole" in the frequency response from highs to lows and you get some bass phase shift introduced by the seperate amp circuitry.


1. Mixing through headphones is nice to get an idea of TRUE bass response (room is not included in the equation), and for spacial qualities but of little use for anything else other than discovering poor splice points etc.
IOW it is very difficult to mix on phones, no matter how good they are.

2. The 4311'a are NOT flat monitors. They are good monitors, but hardly flat. It also depends upon which model (IOW which drivers) are installed in your particular unit.
Some were good, some were not so good.
Personally, I like them, but they take getting used to.

3. The Crown DC 150 is one of Crown's earlier Transistor amps and while it is rugged enough, the sound is terrible.

The OP should save his money and get a pair of Event ASP8's. They are a great deal for the money and sound nothing like 20/20's (thank God)..
Figure about 1k for a pair.
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Hymen Rothstein said:
2. The 4311'a are NOT flat monitors. They are good monitors, but hardly flat. It also depends upon which model (IOW which drivers) are installed in your particular unit.
Some were good, some were not so good.
Personally, I like them, but they take getting used to.

3. The Crown DC 150 is one of Crown's earlier Transistor amps and while it is rugged enough, the sound is terrible.
About the 4311, I know they're not flat, but I use them only to check what y mixes sound like on speakers. Their most brillant quality is that they are not flattering at all.

About the DC150, I can't understand why you say it doesn't sound good...dude, it measures so great so it must sound great!
Maybe you haven't modified yours ?
I have redone all the power section of mine and now it has a lot more punch due to the enhanced power reserve. Still,I think a stock DC-150 sounds quite good.
 
TheDewd said:
About the 4311, I know they're not flat, but I use them only to check what y mixes sound like on speakers. Their most brillant quality is that they are not flattering at all.

About the DC150, I can't understand why you say it doesn't sound good...dude, it measures so great so it must sound great!
Maybe you haven't modified yours ?
I have redone all the power section of mine and now it has a lot more punch due to the enhanced power reserve. Still,I think a stock DC-150 sounds quite good.

Regarding the 4311, fair enough as that is a good application for them.

I don't own a Crown DC-150.
I've heard more than my fair share of them though.
I use a Bryston 4b with a set of B&W Nautilus in my listening room and a pair of Event ASP8's along with Genelec 8040 in my studio.
 
Do not be fooled by the people attacking the monitors you are looking at. You DON NOT need a $1000 set of monitorss. All you need is to do is learn your monitors!!! Listen to the CDs you want to sound like and shoot for that. Please do not even try using headphones, they do not give anything near a true idea of whats going on in the mix. Go out and buy either one of these speakers, then spend sometime listening to music with them. I personaly would choose the Yorkville YSM2P. I have used both sets and both do a great job. The thing that brings me to choose the yorkvilles is the two year manufacture warranty. And don't be worried about people attacking the bass response, if you are recording anything other than hip-hop you'll be great.
 
swal said:
Do not be fooled by the people attacking the monitors you are looking at. You DON NOT need a $1000 set of monitorss. All you need is to do is learn your monitors!!! Listen to the CDs you want to sound like and shoot for that. Please do not even try using headphones, they do not give anything near a true idea of whats going on in the mix. Go out and buy either one of these speakers, then spend sometime listening to music with them. I personaly would choose the Yorkville YSM2P. I have used both sets and both do a great job. The thing that brings me to choose the yorkvilles is the two year manufacture warranty. And don't be worried about people attacking the bass response, if you are recording anything other than hip-hop you'll be great.
There is a contradiction in your post.
Why do you say: "the important part is learning the monitors"
And then "please don't mix using headphones" ?
You can learn headphones as well as monitors.
Indeed, $500 headphones with a nice headphone amp is gonna get you a lot more accuracy and flatness than a set of $500 monitors.
 
I can't compare the two, but I do have a set up RP5s and I like them alot, it's hard though for me to give you specifics though because my room is currently untreated so it's hard to give an unbiased oppinion.
 
TheDewd said:
Indeed, $500 headphones with a nice headphone amp is gonna get you a lot more accuracy and flatness than a set of $500 monitors.

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