Korg HDD Recorders vs others

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I looked at the Yamaha 2816 and the thing is a tad out of my budget. I could get the Korg D16 for 1K less than what the 2816 seems to be going for.

I won't make my desicion before going to a store and playing with the Korg .. but I think Speedy is right .. if I can tack on the audiobuddy for only 80 dollars more and get the phantom power .. why spend the extra for the Yamaha?

Course I am just a novice too ;)
 
I wouldn't knock the sound quality of the Korg so quickly. It is probably the best you'll get for the money, and better than some more expensive (It kills the Roland 1680). Anyways, good luck with finding one you like huaxtec. Do try em all. Research is half the fun of it.

Mike
 
Yo Ritzy Mike:

You hit the nail right on the head. You get that "sound" for the money. Since the Yamaha costs a bit more, the sound is a bit more.

Mo better. Mo money. That's the way it goes.

There is probably many MO better out there; but, for the $$$ the 2816 will make most ears very, very, very Happy.

Green Hornet


Ps I don't sell them. But, I own one. Are there other good units?

Many. But, let ears decide.

:cool: :cool: :p :p :p
 
one thing to consider is the "interfacing" of the recorder with other equipment. the Korg recorders only offer ONE aux output and it is MONO (as far as i know). this means that you must rely SOLEY on the D16/1600's internal effects. if they suit your
ears/tastes,..then everything's cool. HOWEVER,..units like the Yamaha AW2816/4416 and the Akai DPS16 offer FOUR aux outputs (4 mono OR 2 stereo or 1 stereo/2 mono).
this is quite flexible. you can process STEREO pairs of tracks or MULTIPLE independent
tracks with OTHER "external" processors (hell, even the mighty little Tascam 788 can be configured to offer 4 external outputs for effects/processing). this is just something you might want to consider. :confused: ;)
 
little auxes on Korg D16(00)

True...true.... but the effects in the Korg's are said to be much better than those in the Akai's and definately better than the Fostexes...I think comparable to the Roland VS-stuff. Problem with VS is=expensive, and steep learning curve. Oh yeah, a little screen and compressed recording on most of them (not on the bigger ones, but then your track-count goes down).

Remember, comparing the Yamaha 4416 and even the 2816 to the Korg D16 is like deciding between an ART Tube MP and a Joemeek VC1Qs...
4416=whole different (=higher) league.
Korg D16 in Holland +/-$1200
Korg D1600 in Holland +/-$1800
Yamaha 4416 in Holland +/-$3100 (!)
Yamaha 2816 in Holland +/-$1800

Best value for money: Korg D16! IMHO.
Cheerz
 
The Green Hornet said:
Yo Speedy One:

I'll bet you a bottle of Laphroig that the Korg cannot match the Yamaha in sound quality. [that is the yamaha 2816]

I don't sell them. Do you sell Korg?

Hmmmmm.

Green Hornet
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No, I don't. I got one myself, and I find it very easy to work with. And from what I hear from others (about their VS-es, Fostexes) this one is definatley better. Maybe the Yammies sound better, I dunno, half of the sound quality has to do with engineering skills, not with which DAW. And those skills are probably more easily mastered on the Korg D16 than on the Yamaha 2816. Remember, the 4416 is another step up (more in the Akai DPS24/Roland VS2480-league).
Just to straighten things out, o.k.? No offense....
shit's cool, aight? :D :cool:
c ya
Speedy
 
Yo Speedy:

Your price estimate on the Yamaha 4416 is a tad high. Check out the price from Full Compass. Ask for Heather Paske, Ext. 1138 and you will be surprised at the price. {tell her, Ben, said to call]

Otherwise, enjoy your choice of recorders.

Green Hornet:D :D :cool: :p :p
 
Yo Hornet... :)

That's the price in Holland, dude... Things here are more expensive:
C1 in USA=$229, C1 in Holland=$314

Yamaha 4416=$3100 here. BTW, what is the cheapest USA price you have seen?
Oh another thing, I already HAVE a recorder....the D16, remember?

cheerz dudez
 
The Green Hornet said:
Yo Ritzy Mike:

Mo better. Mo money. That's the way it goes.


:cool: :cool: :p :p :p
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Honest to God....I don't know which box is better. But I just can't buy that statement. You basically just said, if you want better, pay more. In other words, everything that is more expensive is better than anything cheaper. Not the right thing to say at least on this site. It'd be like buying that 1500$ Bose system from Sam's Club because it's more expensive than a system I could piece together. Expensive most definitely does not mean better. I mean look at the Roland boxes. I already know that the Korg's can smoke them for a hellalot cheaper. And I haven't read a post here saying that you've given the korg's a chance or even a listen. You just "bet" the yamaha sounds better. I'm not trying to compete between Yamaha's or Korg's here.....that's been done. I'm trying to show you that your statement about "more money=better" does not make a whole lot of sense except to gear-mongers.

Peace out,
Mike
 
Allrgiht Mikeyy!

That's very true. I doubt whether the improved sound difference between a Korg D16 and a Yamaha AW4416 justifies the >$1500 price difference!

And even the difference between the AW2816 and the Korg D16... you'll lack faders and a touchscreen....

your money, your choice...if you were spending MY money, I'd kick you, when you'd brought home an AW2816 for $1800 when you could return with a $1000 Korg D16. That $800 is gonna buy me 4 DMP-3's, so then you have excellent pre's with VU's and phantompower.!


cheerz.... ah finally 50! :)
 
I'll have to admit that from some of the user reviews I have read on sites that more money definitely does not always mean better sound quality. For my purpose I really dont think I need to spend over 1500 for a recorder to do what I want to do. I am sure the Yamaha has great sound quality but for the price it is really starting to look like the Korg D16 is just what the doctor ordered for me!;)
 
Yup, that was my conclusion too, and I have not been dissapointed so far. Sounds great, and the best thing is how user-friendly it is!

Matt
 
Amen to that

Way to go, Huaxtec, mgiles7 and vurt.

Finally folks who understand. I'm not trying to diss Green Hornet here, but some of his statements are rather bold. Yet the Korg D16 has proven itself for me, for a whole bunch of reasonably reliable reviewers (that's 3R!), for mgiles7, and for anyone who wanted the best value for money, with a small learning curve and a ton of possibilities.
Man if I had something like 20 g's, I'd buy a couple of class A pre's (Neve 1073 (Dr.Dre's phat!), Focusrite ISA/Red, Great River VMP2), maybe an Alesis HD24, a Mac G4 with Pro Tools TDM, and an extra Tascam DM24 mixer.
But then I still need an extra 20 g's for cables, mics and converters (Apogee, dcs...)


Good luck with your D16's!
cheerz
 
The Again 900.00 dollars is a great reason to get the Akai DPS 16 this has got to be the best deal arround for this kind of equipment.

I got mine at mars, it was the last one though. I wonder how many of you will find these still availible.
 
UGh ... I think I may have waited too long ... I can't find the D16 on any of the online stores that I use to ... looks like they are pushing the D1600 to replace it. Hopefully I can find it again somewhere for a good price!
 
DPS16

I'd like to second, or third the Akai DPS16 vote here. If you can find it buy it. I bought mine a year ago for $2000. It is dead easy to use. Probably the easiest stand alone unit to use. I have never opened the manually....never. Everything is very logically laid out, unlike the Roland units. I jumped straight from my analog four track to the DPS16 without any trouble.
 
I got ahold of a D1600 with the burner that was 3 months old for $1450
& it still had the warranty card with it!!! The touch screen makes it extra easy
to navigate your way around. One reason I went with the KORG was because
of the effects. There's nothing worse than a crummy sounding reverb to ruin
everything. The reverbs on this thing are real nice & you can get in there
a tweek 'em however you want. I was afraid they wouldn't compare to the
Lexicon stuff I'm used to, but the Korg's are excellent!
 
The D1600 would definitely be nice but the prices right now are just a little out of my price range. I am kind of upset I missed the D16 on zzounds for $999 but I guess I will just wait to see if the D1600's price drops in the near future. It would probably be better to have the built in CD burner anyway.

I'm kind of skeptical buying used .. have you all had success doing that?
 
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