Korg HDD Recorders vs others

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Hey everyone,

I was wondering if anyone could help compare Korg recorders against other bigger brands out there (Roland, Yamaha, Tascam etc).

I have been out to get a HDD recorder for some time but I just don't know enough about them to make a good call as to what to get. I am hoping to spend 1200 or less but if the right machine costs a little more than that I would probably be willing to spend it.

I have looked into the Tascam 788, the Roland 890, and recently the Korg D1200 has caught my eye. I would prefer to have more than 8 tracks so that is why the korg and its 24bit recording has caught my eye.

IF anyone has insights into Korg, likes/dislikes etc and can compare them to others out there I would be much appreciative!

:confused:
 
I bought the Roland Studio Pack for $700. If you have a decent comp you can get 24tracks with 8 simul record channels.

Do you have to have a dedicated HD system? I prefer DAW's for editing and mixing flexibility.
 
I wouldn't know the first thing as to how to set up a computer to do recording. It would probably be easier for me just to buy the all in one package which is why I have been looking at the HDD recorders
 
My buddy and I bought an Akai DPS16 and we love it. It's an all in one box but if you want to, you can record all of your tracks to it, buy a CDRW drive and export your tracks as .wav files then mix on a computer if ou prefer. We just started tracking on it recently and the sound quality is incredible!! There are some great deals on this unit. Ours came with a CDRW drive!
Check out
http://www.shreveaudio.com/
Hope this helps,
JEFF
 
Korg D16(00)

Hi guys, I have a Korg D16, and I'm very happy with it.

BTW I think you ment the D1600, 'coz there is no D1200. There is a D12, but that one has no touch screen option, and can only record 4 tracks simult.

Indeed from what I've heard the Akai DSP 16i is a good option too, but I think you can get the Korg D16 for $1000 new, and $700 or less 2nd handed. With the D16 you can record 8 tr @ 16 bit simul. and 4 tr @ 24 bit simult. There is no 96 kHz option, too bad.:mad: The insert/master/final effects are very decent, especially the limiters/clean guitar amp sims/mic. sims/ reverbs, the rest is nice/mediocre. 8 inputs, of which 2 are XLR/jack combi, all 8 are balanced, and can handle +4dBu signals.
You can burn on a external CD-RW with a SCSI-drive, and now with the V2 software you can import/export wav's and back up on CD-R.
Sound On Sound has done an article where they compare 5 big 16 trackers, Roland VS 1680, Korg D16, Yamaha AW4416, Akai DSP 16i, Fostex VF16, check it out.

hope this helps!:)

cheerz,
Speedy
 
I just bought a d16 off of ebay for $620! Quite the steal I thought...Guy I bought it from was really cool - He was upgrading to the d1600 he liked the d16 so much. I can't wait to see what it can do. This will be my first recording studio ever though, so it might be awhile before I have anything to show for it.

Speedy - I sent you a personal message

Matt
 
Thanks for the tip on the article and the insight speedy :) Yeah I meant to say the D1600 not 1200
 
I purchased the Akai DPS16 in December and I'm very, very pleased with it. It was also quite inexpensive.

Good luck..
 
Speedy -

Do you happen to know what issue of sound on sound they did the comarison between the 16 track recorders you mentioned? I couldn't find it... thx!
 
Re: Korg D16(00)

Speeddemon said:
Hi guys, I have a Korg D16, and I'm very happy with it.

BTW I think you ment the D1600, 'coz there is no D1200. There is a D12, but that one has no touch screen option, and can only record 4 tracks simult.

Indeed from what I've heard the Akai DSP 16i is a good option too, but I think you can get the Korg D16 for $1000 new, and $700 or less 2nd handed. With the D16 you can record 8 tr @ 16 bit simul. and 4 tr @ 24 bit simult. There is no 96 kHz option, too bad.:mad: The insert/master/final effects are very decent, especially the limiters/clean guitar amp sims/mic. sims/ reverbs, the rest is nice/mediocre. 8 inputs, of which 2 are XLR/jack combi, all 8 are balanced, and can handle +4dBu signals.
You can burn on a external CD-RW with a SCSI-drive, and now with the V2 software you can import/export wav's and back up on CD-R.
Sound On Sound has done an article where they compare 5 big 16 trackers, Roland VS 1680, Korg D16, Yamaha AW4416, Akai DSP 16i, Fostex VF16, check it out.

hope this helps!:)

cheerz,
Speedy
Click to expand...

the v3 upgrade for the korg d16 is already available. check out the korg website. one of the new features is being able to burn a cd-r at 4x.

cheers,
jack
 
issue of S.O.S.

Hi again. Sorry I was away so long...got other forums too :D (s.o.s., h.c.) anywayzz....

The issue of Sound On Sound, where the comparison of the 5 16trackers is done is :
MARCH 2001, BUYER'S GUIDE 16-TRACK DIGITAL MULTITRACKERS

So, now you know. There are some other cool articles in that edition too; Presonus VXP, Pro Tools Control 24, Tascam porta 424 MK III& 414 MKII (for those of us, who can't or won't want to be in '16 tracker's league :D )

cheerz,
Speedy
 
D16

Well i have had the d16 for 3 days now and it sems to be a great little recorder, And I stress LITTLE. How did they pack all that stuff in there?? Just for starters I recorded myself and my 3 year old nephew on the built in mic (which sounded a heck of a lot better than I thought it would.) talkng and singing together and slapped a couple of effects on it, it was quite easy and seems to be very user-friendly so far!(and that is saying a lot for me, because I lack a certain something when it comes to following instructions in a manual)

Anyway I recieved my 2 ecm8000 omni mics in the mail yesterday and my mackie 1202-VLZ Pro should be arriving today, I can't wait to try them all out together and see what happens!

Speedy - Have you ever been able to, or tryed to take a song from the D16 and export it to cpu and then made a mp3 out of it? If so, explain this process to me a little if you could.

Matt
 
That is cool that most seem to be happy with the Korg. I think I am really leaning toward gettin gthe D16 at this point. However from what I have read from sound on sound they were disappointed that it didnt have phantom power for the mics.

Is phantom power that big of a deal? I am really a novice when it comes to features etc on these things.
 
I went ahead and bought a Mackie 1202-VLZ Pro Mixer which has phantom power, so I wouldn't have to worry about it. I am sure there are other cheaper ways of going about that, But I also wanted the Mackie for it's mic-Pres. I am still confused a little on Phantom power myself. Maybe there is some other wise recording guru that could explain to us what you can and can't use without Phantom power.

Matt
 
phantom power

well, Phantom power is used for condenser microphones. Like the ECM8000's you mentioned. You can put in on, even when there are only dynamic mic's attached, but only with balanced cables:
-XLR to XLR
-XLR to JACK TRS

When You connect a dynamic mic with an unbalanced cable to a source, with the phantompower of that source on, you might damage the mic.

There are special phantom-power stand alone boxes, but you could also connect a M-Audio AudioBuddy for $79 to your Korg D16. That's what I'm gonna do at least (next year....this year I'm buying a Joemeek VC1Qcs probably)
You run a jack-jack cable from the output of the Audiobuddy to one of the inputs of your Korg, with the Trim set to +4dBu.
For gain control, just use the gain on the Audiobuddy, since the pre amps of the AB are much cleaner, less noisier than those of the Korg. (that's what I heard. I will check it, this summer)
BTW, with the Audiobuddy you'll have 2 (!) channels.
there, hope this helps...

cheerz,
Speedy
 
phantom power

Thanks again for the insight into phantom power. I will look into the audiobuddy to compensate for what seems to be the only thing the korg doesn't offer. The more I read about the D16 the more I like... :)
 
Yo HUAX-man:]

Before you buy anything, make sure you check out the Yamaha 2816 DAW.

The sound on it is outstanding.

Learning curve is tough because the fricking manual makes it tough. Sometimes the manual has 8 paragraphs which, basically, say the same thing -- very redundant manual.

However, it isn't that tough to get around.

It has Phantom power on two channels, which is all you would need most of the time.

I won't go into all the features but as long as you're looking, check out units in person at a vendor's for a on the spot demo.

Happy recording when you start.

Green Hornet
 
Yammie 2816? Nehh...

Hi guys, it's me again.
Although I bet the Yamaha sounds nice, I hear a lot of people say they have their issues with the faders (only 8 of them), the Korg D16 has 12 (8 mono 4 stereo).
And the Yamaha is way more expensive than the Korg.
Some other features on the Korg:
-Large touchscreen ! Very addictive and handy
-Small and portable
-easy menu's, little learning curve

Add an Audiobuddy for $79, and you'll have 2 very good pre's with phantompower! I hear the Audiobuddy doesn't hiss (much) at high gain levels, like the pre's of the Korg do. I bet the Yamaha's aren't much better, I mean, they're all DAW-included pre's, and the manufacturers have to cut corners somewhere, or can you imagine a DAW with:
-100 mm motorized faders
-Neve/SSL-class channel strips (16 or 24 'o them)
-A 6" touchscreem
-Millenia style aluminium pots
-onboard 3 band fully parametric analog (!!!) EQ
-Avalon VT737SP style mic pre's
-2 Master VU-meters (just for the looks :D )
-Onboard FX in the Lexicon PCM91 class (4 processors)

And this all for less than $2000?
I'll buy 10 of 'em tomorrow (after I sold my body to the bank ;) )

cheerz
 
Yo Speedy One:

I'll bet you a bottle of Laphroig that the Korg cannot match the Yamaha in sound quality. [that is the yamaha 2816]

I don't sell them. Do you sell Korg?

Hmmmmm.

Green Hornet
 
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