jam session library...ing???

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one idea that has come to my mind is recording my band's jam sessions... just because a lot of stuff happens that we might not catch, and if we can listen to it later on, we might be able to pick up something we missed.

We've tried with a computer mic... it worked, just the quality was bad.

Would seting up real mics around the room (rather than micing each intrument -- this might save mics?) work better?

Would you suggest any mics in particular? The Sm81? Sm57?

What about placement? In corners?

Would an omni-directional be best?

THANKS!
 
yeah, "real" mics would definitely work better than computer mics. 57s are great, cheap, overall mics. and if you're just trying to capture the magic of the jam session for personal use then i'd say just get a couple of those. as far as positioning, it depends on how your band sets up for the jam. if you guys set up as you would on stage, then just throw them in front of you guys, pointing at the band. If you kind of create a circle then I'd put them in the middle of the band pointing in opposite directions. just experiment. :cool:
 
andyouandi,

This is something that I've been doing for quite a while. Depending on what you're going for, it really matters very little how it gets captured, as long as it's captured. At least for what I was looking for, anyway.

At first, I would just set 1 SM 58 up on a stand, and do a few tests to see where it would capture everything the best. The quality was not superb. But, again, the question is "What are you going for?" I cataloged every practice that we had, burned a disk and passed out the disks to the band members afterward.

I even keep a diary of the tracks that I record for the session, as well. That way, I've got something to reference while we go over the material. I make notes of the settings for the instruments, what equipment was used, where we recorded, etc. I wrote down parts that I liked, parts that I didn't. It's proven to be a great tool.

The big test was finding band members that will put as much into studying the material as much as I did.

Getting off track a bit, sorry.

I started upgrading my recording set up, and bought a Studio Projects B1 for vocals. I started using this mic for recording the room, while pointing the 57 a bit closer to the vocals. Just a really basic sounding mix. Eventually, I upgraded again, and have a 57 on guitar, a 58 on the bass, another 57 on vocals, and the b1 in front of the drums. It takes a bit longer to set up, but since I like the experimentation, and don't mind getting there a bit early, it's ok with me. ;)

At any rate, do what works the best for your goals. These types of recordings are almost solely for songwriting/arranging purposes, because the quality of sound is just not good enough to try to evaluate an amp setting, etc. So, if you can capture the chord changes, or a drum fill, or certain riff or melody, or whatever, then you're already doing great. Save the money for other things that the band needs to have before it needs the microphones. Unless, of course, the band is ready for it, or you want it for your recording setup yourself.

-Speedy
 
Use to do this a lot with a decent cassette recorder and a cheap 4 channel mixer.
What we did was take two SM 57 and place them 5 feet in front of drummer about 3 feet apart and 5 feet above ground at the 10 and 2 positions, or pointing to the outside edges of the cymbals. This was L + R.
Then, we had vocals with sm58 handheld, panned centre.
Just try not to over-do the levels, and barely go into the red. This will keep it clean.
 
Same here, with a stereo cassette deck taking a feed off the mixer. The bass & electric guitars were not mic'd up, but there was plenty of bleed that a passable mix was possible.
 
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