I've gotta tube amp,you cant have one.....

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soundchaser59 said:
That's why my board has Voodoo Lab "all analog" pedals on it!
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Ahh not to break your bubble here bud but what do think you "Voodoo dodo" is made of?
 
ggun is correct in that a tube amp is more than just the quality of distortion. There are some very good sounding solid state and digital amps out there; capable of generating convincing tube tones.

What they haven't been able to replicate is how a tube amp 'feels' and responds to your playing. A tube amp is a very responsive instrument. Yes, I do 'feel' the difference when I play through a Tech 21 Trademark 10 after playing through my 1959 tweed. But it doesn't mean the tube amp always 'sounds' better though...
 
First off guys,I was wasted when I started this thread.Just finished a 4
hr gig and drank many bourbon and cokes afterward.So if I offended any-
one that likes that sucky SS tone,I apologize.
 
DC-XPL said:
I love these guys that buy tube amps and then stick a bunch of transistor distortion pedals in front. Whadya think is giving you the distortion? Unless you are using it to drive the front end of the amp, you are getting your distortion from a transistor. Sorry to be the one to break it to you.... :eek:

Just read an article about Tom Petty and Mike Campbell in Guitar Player. They were using old SS Vox Super Beatles on their last tour. I dare you to say Mike Campbell sounds bad..... :)
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What about this?
 
Your right Tube Amps Really Suck!!!

Hearing either my 66' or 69' (Allen Modded ) Bassman head through an open back 2x12 loaded with Celestion V-30's is something you can NEVER, TRUST me NEVER get with a SS amp. The Normal channel is the most beautiful clean circuit Fender ever made, which is the AA-864. The other side on the bass channel is the Tweed Bassman/Plexi Marshall gain circuit. Until you've heard either channel at about 5 1/2, you'll never understand why SS amps CAN'T get that orgasmic Tone. Maybe some day but not yet.
 
boingoman said:
Transistors are analog.
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Double said:
Ahh not to break your bubble here bud but what do think you "Voodoo dodo" is made of?
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They are analog. Analog means "not digital"......it does not mean "not solid state." As Boingoman pointed out, transistors are not digital. There is nothing digital in my Sparkle Drive or my Analog Chorus. There is no digital sampling going on, there is no AD/DA conversion going on. It can have transistors in it for gain staging or switching or whatever, but that doesn't mean it isn't analog. There is nothing inherently "digital" about a transistor.

That's my point, and I'm stickin to it...... :D
 
^Yeah, but what he was saying is that it doesn't matter if they are digital or analog.
The fact is that if you are not using the pedal to drive the tubes (but instead using the tube amp on clean and running a distortion pedal into it) then it doesn't matter if it is analog or not. You're not using the tubes (unless the pedal is a tube pedal, and even in that case, there is no power tube distortion).

Just btw, I like Dimebag's tone, and he was solid state.
That's about the only SS tone that I've ever liked.
 
FUCK IT......Im just gonna play an acoustic from now on damit! :mad:
 
flamin-gitaur said:
FUCK IT......Im just gonna play an acoustic from now on damit! :mad:
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My acoustic has a tube in it.In fact I'm going to install another this after.
My acoustic guitar case is also tube.My fricking Capo is tube.The cloth
that I wipe the gunk off of my Guitars with is a tube model.
Anyone settling for SS is only doing so for financial reasons.Anyone that had
there choice of amps for free would certainly not pick a SS,unless they want to sound like shit.
You guys that think SS stands up to tube,post some examples.
 
flamin-gitaur said:
FUCK IT......Im just gonna play an acoustic from now on damit! :mad:
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Is that a digital or analog acoustic? Digital acoustics suck. ;^)
 
Texsunburst59 said:
you'll never understand why SS amps CAN'T get that orgasmic Tone.
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How come old fender amp grillcloth starts to look like someone wiped their ass with it? When does it turn brown like that?
 
HateMail said:
Pretty much the only thing good about SS amps is the non-need to retube, as well as you knowing the SS amp is reliable and going to be there for you when your tube craps out.
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Maybe but out of my fairly large amp collection ..... the only amps that are down right now are SS and one of them probably isn't fixable. All of my tube amps (including 35 year old jobbies) work every time.
 
cephus said:
How come old fender amp grillcloth starts to look like someone wiped their ass with it? When does it turn brown like that?
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I gets like that when it's been played in bars and has had smoke on it for 40 yrs. and has had beer spilled on it and been out in the sun on outdoor festival gigs. It's truly been reliced. You CAN'T buy that type of mojo. It even makes the amp sound BETTER.LOL. Actually the main reason that it looks like someone wiped that ASS with it, is because once they played it and heard the TONE, they crapped all over themselves, and that was the closest thing to wipe their ass with. I hope this clears everything up for you. Would YOU like to play through that amp?
 
also ..... that speaker is moving air back and forth thru that grill cloth ....... so when it's in a smokey bar ... then it's moving smoke back and forth thru the grill cloth and stains it ...... that; and the wiping your ass thing.
 
Texsunburst59 said:
Would YOU like to play through that amp?
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No. Not really.

I didn't mean to insult. Lt Bob gave more of the explanation that I was looking for. I thought it was going to be something like the grillcloth had actual metal in the weave that oxidized or something. I've seen alot of shit-stained fenders over the years and realize it's a characteristic of them.

I know it might be hard for someone like you to comprehend, but I don't put a lot of stock in gear. i know far more people with "collections" of instruments and equipment that can't play than can play. It's a great investment, for sure, but it's no sure-fire formula for mojo. I don't know if you can play or not, but that pile of amps doesn't exactly earn you the benefit of the doubt in my book.

It's cool. I like the picture and all. It's just a bit overstated. I'm not busting your balls. I'm just making sure you ain't busting mine.
 
Not to add fuel to the fire, but there's also a huge difference between circuit board amps and point to point wired amps.
 
I actually threw away all my picks and only strike the strings with valves now ;)

When I finger-pick I wear a valve on each digit :D
 
Codmate said:
I actually threw away all my picks and only strike the strings with valves now ;)

When I finger-pick I wear a valve on each digit :D
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For drums you could make a rack of different sized tubes and hit them with a little stick with a superball on the end of it.
 
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