Is it wrong to like The Edge?

[zacanger]

I like the Pogues

They rule.

 

[raven46]

yea after smashing a bottle of vodka off his head

shane is cool and has some great lyrics

 

[32-20-Blues]

yea after smashing a bottle of vodka off his head

shane is cool and has some great lyrics

Yeah, he was one of the best songwriters around.

 

[stash98]

I'm not saying he's on a par with the Edge, seeing as he's not a guitarist. I'm just saying, anyone can play simple parts and use a ton of effects to make them sound good.

You said play, I said write..huge difference.

 

[zacanger]

You said play, I said write..huge difference.

Ah, sorry, it didn't register. Any idiot with a guitar and a ton of effects can sit down, play random shit, and be called a writer of masterpieces.

 

[clinton]

it's all about style..... for example If I hear members saying that a certain Jazz guitarist sucks, and then check out that members homepage and listen to his mp3's only to hear that he plays ac/dc type rock or country music then that members opinion is basically null and void as to whether the jazz guitarist sucks or not.

Codemate..I listened to your mp3's and your music sounds very showbiz/theatre with very minimal guitar playing in there...I would say that you are a very good arranger but I dont hear anything in your music that sounds like guitar rock at all (which is what U2 plays).

Malmsteen is an incredibly fast guitarist but he plays with no feeling and has the nastiest guitar tone and dress sense ever.... does this mean he is a crap guitarist...well if you are a stone cold blues player you would probably say yes....if u were a shredder u would say no....

As for the whole effects are bad thing... remember that hendrix was a pioneer in using effects. He would sit for two weeks to try to get a reversed tape delay just right... and also remember that not every guitarist thought that Hendrix was good. Howlin Wolf as well as other traditional blues greats HATED what Hendrix was doing to the blues...

Its all about style. Guitaring and music is bigger that our preferences and when we learn to find something good in any form of music then we are finally learning to listen to music with a MUSICIANS EAR.

 

[Codmate]

it's all about style..... for example If I hear members saying that a certain Jazz guitarist sucks, and then check out that members homepage and listen to his mp3's only to hear that he plays ac/dc type rock or country music then that members opinion is basically null and void as to whether the jazz guitarist sucks or not.

Codemate..I listened to your mp3's and your music sounds very showbiz/theatre with very minimal guitar playing in there...I would say that you are a very good arranger but I dont hear anything in your music that sounds like guitar rock at all (which is what U2 plays).

Malmsteen is an incredibly fast guitarist but he plays with no feeling and has the nastiest guitar tone and dress sense ever.... does this mean he is a crap guitarist...well if you are a stone cold blues player you would probably say yes....if u were a shredder u would say no....

As for the whole effects are bad thing... remember that hendrix was a pioneer in using effects. He would sit for two weeks to try to get a reversed tape delay just right... and also remember that not every guitarist thought that Hendrix was good. Howlin Wolf as well as other traditional blues greats HATED what Hendrix was doing to the blues...

Its all about style. Guitaring and music is bigger that our preferences and when we learn to find something good in any form of music then we are finally learning to listen to music with a MUSICIANS EAR.

I've played many styles over the years. Jazz-funk, classical (badly), jazz (badly), boring indie rubbish, covers etc etc.
Check out my new experimental stuff on www.myspace.com/enchantedatom if you want to hear me 'rock out' slightly

Anyway - I get what your saying, but I'm interested in all sorts of music, so I feel my opinion of the Edge is as valid as anyone's.

I largely agree with Bill Bailey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u6Eeb0YrKY

BTW - thanks for the compliment!
So few people notice arrangements

 

[Superhuman]

Ummm... sure ya do, big guy.

Not going to get into one of the many bizarre tangents that spin off these boards but it is true that you can make up anything about yourself on the internet and who's to now if it's true or not... to be honest I couldn't be bothered creating a different personality online. Not going to bother getting into what I do in detail.. it doesnt really belong in a thread about U2 and The Edge anyway! Only reason I posted that was because i read the previous post wrong and thought I was being accused on being an activist (Bono is the activist)... anyway, deleted it straight away but you obviously spotted it quickly!

 

[Codmate]

Not going to get into one of the many bizarre tangents that spin off these boards but it is true that you can make up anything about yourself on the internet and who's to now if it's true or not...

I'm a robotic fish!

I play the guitar with my mind

 

[Superhuman]

Thin Lizzy are/were the greatest Irish band.. for me anyway. They had some cool guitarists over the years like Eric Bell, Gary Moore and Scott Gorham. Brian Downey was an amazing drummer too... one of the best unknown drummers from the time. Another great band around at the moment is Kila, kind of 'neo-trad' - check out the bodhran player for amazing sounds and a unique playing style. U2 arent all bad, just their new stuff... their old stuff like Sunday Bloody Sunday and Where The Streets Have No Name are undeniable classics... pity Bono is such a prick though!

 

[Superhuman]

I'm a robotic fish!

I play the guitar with my mind

Maybe you could sell an ebook and make millions.. "Learn To Play Guitar Using Only The Power Of Your Mind". If you google it you'll probably find some joker out there is already doing it

 

[rayc]

Superhuman,
Thin Lizzy were great but have you forgotten Horslips (a barstardisation of Horsemen of the Apocalypse)? If not for Lizzy & the 'Lips, (the latter started the serious DIY revolution in '71 - well before punk) were would The Precipice, Onob and Co. be?

 

[32-20-Blues]

Superhuman,
Thin Lizzy were great but have you forgotten Horslips (a barstardisation of Horsemen of the Apocalypse)? If not for Lizzy & the 'Lips, (the latter started the serious DIY revolution in '71 - well before punk) were would The Precipice, Onob and Co. be?

hell yes. Horslips are amazing. Then again, Lizzy are great too. And I love Kila.
Sweeney's Men, anyone?

 

[stash98]

Ah, sorry, it didn't register. Any idiot with a guitar and a ton of effects can sit down, play random shit, and be called a writer of masterpieces.

Everyone would do it if that was the case. Hey, I thought the same way way when I was younger too. There is a lot more to it then the way you are oversimplifying it.

 

[zacanger]

Everyone would do it if that was the case. Hey, I thought the same way way when I was younger too. There is a lot more to it then the way you are oversimplifying it.

Well, I suppose I am over simplifying it, but my point is, it's not at all hard to write stuff that sounds decent when you're using a ton of delay and building on that.

 

[stash98]

I agree with "decent". No doubt about it.

 

[Superhuman]

Superhuman,
Thin Lizzy were great but have you forgotten Horslips (a barstardisation of Horsemen of the Apocalypse)? If not for Lizzy & the 'Lips, (the latter started the serious DIY revolution in '71 - well before punk) were would The Precipice, Onob and Co. be?

Now that you mention punk... how about Stiff Little Fingers? Another solid Irish band. Horslips were a great band too, very influential, especially on the likes of Thin Lizzy. Even Metallica were influenced by Thin Lizzy (mostly in the Cliff days). They even played Whisky in The Jar at the last gig in Dublin (cover version appeared on the B side of one the Black album singles), the crowd basically demanded it. It was great, they played an impromptu version, it seemed like they had no idea it was going to come up but it went down as one of the best songs of the night.

 

[rayc]

Then again Mr Gallagher voted next best guitarist to Hendrix when Jimi was still alive.

 

[32-20-Blues]

Now that you mention punk... how about Stiff Little Fingers? Another solid Irish band. Horslips were a great band too, very influential, especially on the likes of Thin Lizzy. Even Metallica were influenced by Thin Lizzy (mostly in the Cliff days). They even played Whisky in The Jar at the last gig in Dublin (cover version appeared on the B side of one the Black album singles), the crowd basically demanded it. It was great, they played an impromptu version, it seemed like they had no idea it was going to come up but it went down as one of the best songs of the night.

It was on Garage Inc also. Along with a lot of absolute shite.

And yeah, Stiff Little Fingers are excellent.

 

[TelePaul]

Rorys the fucking man! Actually, did anyone recall the Edge doing blues? 'When Love Comes To Town' has gotta be the ONLY blues song with a delay solo in it.