Is it possible??

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Does anyone know of a way to take either cd audio or Mp3's and break them down into separate tracks. Meaning isolate drumbeats, instruments and so forth. Please let me know. Thanks.
 
As far as I know, you can't 'unmix' a CD. You could use some clever eq'ing to try and isolate one instrument but you'll always have bleed through from other instruments that occupy the same frequency range.

I have seen some of the professional engineers in this BBS talk about using a peak detector to generate a trigger signal based on some well defined transient in a song (e.g. a snare hit), the trigger is then used to drive a synth drum machine or a side chain.

But now I'm curious, how do they remove the voices from the kareoke backing tracks?
 
Exactly!!!! i would think since we can put the music into an mp3 form we should be able to break it down on a software level.
 
The backing tracks on karaoke players are mixed without the vocals. Their is no way to effectively remove all vocals from a tune. You can try E.Q'ing and tweaking to lower the main frequency of the vocals but that in turn will take some instruments on the same frequency as the vocals along with it.
 
fladj2, mp3 is a compression format, why would you still be able to break it down? Wouldn't make sense?
 
You cannot "unmix" a cd....... period. (And what format it's in doesn't matter a single bit.........)

You CAN trigger sounds based on peaks.... but the more tracks you have blended together, the less "specific" (and therefore less meaningful) those peaks will be....

Karaoke tracks are NOT the original songs - they are recreations (ie, covers done reasonably accurately) with the vocals left off.
 
!!!! i would think since we can put the music into an mp3 form we should be able to break it down on a software level.
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Why, just because it's in digital form? If you had a digital photgraph of several people in a room, would you expect to be able to remove the people's images into separate files and then see what's behind them in the remaining edited photo?
 
fladj2 said:
Exactly!!!! i would think since we can put the music into an mp3 form we should be able to break it down on a software level.
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This especially doesn't make sense as MP3 is a compression format. Lets see.....lets throw away a shit load of our data and see if we can take what's left and reconstruct the individual instruments and vocals onto seperate tracks. Hmmmmm.....
 
AlChuck said:

Why, just because it's in digital form? If you had a digital photgraph of several people in a room, would you expect to be able to remove the people's images into separate files and then see what's behind them in the remaining edited photo?
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:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

LMAO
 
Hell, if the mixer was any good, he would have given the mix "depth, width, and height" - so you should be able to erase the "closer" stuff, like vocals, and just leave the band... :=)

Hey guise, try this: mix up a batch of brownies (Alice or regular), bake them, cut them into squares; OK, now take out just the chocolate... Oh, and move the shortening to the top, and make the flour go just around the perimeter of each cut brownie, and...
 
If I had infinite amounts of time I would make a program that analized music and tried to break it down into separate parts. I would be very interesting to see how far it would get.

But I don't think it would go very far, and I've never heard of any attempts to do this.
 
knightfly said:
.... mix up a batch of brownies (Alice or regular), bake them, cut them into squares; OK, now take out just the chocolate... Oh, and move the shortening to the top, and make the flour go just around the perimeter of each cut brownie, and...
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Once again, a very good assimilation. :cool:
 
Once again, a very good assimilation.
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You mean a very good analogy?

Whatever, I think I know what you are saying, and I agree. It also made me think of brownies and so now I'm hungry...
 
TexRoadkill said:


Are you saying Knightfly is a Borg?
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You will be assimilated into the home recording collective....you will be assimilated.......
 
Track Rat said:

You will be assimilated into the home recording collective....you will be assimilated.......
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Calm down Locutus,.. calm down. You'll get your chance on these "irrelevant" humans. ;)
 
I think if the recording of the lead vocal is a monotone, like alot of the Pearl Jam stuff that by using a Deeseesing techniqe could be very efective in eraseing the lead vocal. but even thats not perfect.


Any of you ever record Karaoke discs? I own a Karaoke company and do work on the side recording singers.
 
i thought karaoke, as bear said, are just recreations of the song
 
keilson said:
i thought karaoke, as bear said, are just recreations of the song
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The instrumental beds are MOST DEFINITELY recreations..........

Karaoke tracks also usually provide a singing reference track - and the singer usually mimics the original performance to some degree....
 
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