Is firewire realiable?

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The Firestudio will NOT work with Sonar. If you buy it anyways, you get what you deserve. Firewire works great on properly built devices such as RME and MOTU. Pres dont mean a thing if you cant record what theyre hooked up to.

now THAT was what i needed to hear. i guess ill be looking into the Motu 8pre then.

thanks for all your help. This was a road in which i was traveling down blindly.....and all these responses helped a great deal.
 
The Firestudio will NOT work with Sonar.

Really? I have no experience with the firestudio but my firepod works fine with Sonar 6.2.

Regarding the Motu 8Pre, it may be a good unit but I would steer clear because it's only got 2 outs.
 
The firepod and firestudio do share the same sort of EXCELLENT layout, and questionable quality control issues, but the firestudio is a Dice 2 unit, a whole nother ballgame in terms of firewire sketchiness, latency and peace of mind
 
well my alesis io|26 (a dice2 unit) is running really well with absolutely no problems at all. sounds good as well. I eventually plan to grab a behringer ADA8000 (i know behringer, but this unit has be recognised as one of behringer's few good pieces of gear) to run ADAT into it, for an extra 8 tracks, bumping me up to 16 simultaneous.
 
well my alesis io|26 (a dice2 unit) is running really well with absolutely no problems at all. sounds good as well. I eventually plan to grab a behringer ADA8000 (i know behringer, but this unit has be recognised as one of behringer's few good pieces of gear) to run ADAT into it, for an extra 8 tracks, bumping me up to 16 simultaneous.

I get a lot of mails about Alesis io8/io26 problems, and focusrite saffire issues, some people have found as you seem to have, a successful firewire chipset/mobo combo to use with it. Itll be interesting to see what happens with 16 on your end, or the 24 a lot of people use. If its still working OK with 16 ins, I'd be thrilled to hear your setup, it could really help a lot of people out.

Are you using XP SP1? Or xp sp2 with the firewire fix? or some other os?
 
The firepod and firestudio do share the same sort of EXCELLENT layout, and questionable quality control issues, but the firestudio is a Dice 2 unit, a whole nother ballgame in terms of firewire sketchiness, latency and peace of mind

Then maybe the firepod is a better bet ?? Cheaper than the firestudio any way. Mine has never let me down. It even works on my laptop and the presonus site explicitly warns against using an ati9100 graphics card
 
I recently upgraded from a Delta66 with OmniStudio to a MOTU UltraLite and am very happy.

The CueMix console doesn't let you adjust the output volume of the machine - so you have to control audio output via the MOTU unit or in the audio application itself. You soon get used to that though.

The sound is crystal - really really good for a unit this price and size, and the firewire seems more reliable than my old PCI card. The PCI spec was always fiddled by mainboard and card manufacturers, so could be randomly unreliable - or rock solid depending on your hardware and your luck.

It's become worse over time, so now is definitly the time to move to a new interface.

Make sure your firewire chipset is a good one (preferably Texas Instruments or Lucent) and you'll be golden for most firewire hardware.
 
For many reasons (one of wich is expandability) I will stick with my trusty pci interfaces.

as far as the firepod goes. I would not buy a card without a word clock and out. That knocks out the firepod for me. I know they will synch to each other through firewire, but maybe I want to synch it to a different card:rolleyes:

I do want to get a firewire my laptop (for remote recording) eventually. I have ruled out the firepod though.


F.S.
 
I also never could get a FireStudio Project working. went through 2 units, had to roll back to OS X 10.4.9 and had help from Ben at Presonus. No dice.

probably will be going with MOTU or other once I save up the $$$. there must be a reason those things are so cheap?

but to answer your question, firewire has been solid on other interfaces I've used.

MOTU is rock solid on my g5 and macbook pro. In Leopard, and Tiger...go for it.
 
Then maybe the firepod is a better bet ?? Cheaper than the firestudio any way. Mine has never let me down. It even works on my laptop and the presonus site explicitly warns against using an ati9100 graphics card

If you compare running a firepod with a firestudio, you wont believe in any way that the drivers are made by the same company. The firepod is pretty solid across a pretty wide range of gear. Its ease of use on some sketchy systems, and my undying love for the Presonus Centralstation led me to give the firestudio a try. It did not go well...I tried a wide wide range of gear to try and get it going and no dice
 
If you compare running a firepod with a firestudio, you wont believe in any way that the drivers are made by the same company. The firepod is pretty solid across a pretty wide range of gear. Its ease of use on some sketchy systems, and my undying love for the Presonus Centralstation led me to give the firestudio a try. It did not go well...I tried a wide wide range of gear to try and get it going and no dice

The problem is that it is dice... or rather DICE II. That chipset appears to be really picky about compatibility---more so than other chipsets. Not sure how much of that is the hardware and how much of it is poor baseline drivers from the chipset manufacturer.
 
As in my post way up above: ALWAYS stick with TexasInstruments firewire chipsets (even if it means putting in another firewire card or - in a laptop- a PCMCIA or Expresscard).

TI is the gold standard for audio interface manufacturers.
 
DiceII is made by TC Electronics, and is the problem for the instability in their own Konnekt interfaces. Those are great sounding but poor performing devices also.
 
As in my post way up above: ALWAYS stick with TexasInstruments firewire chipsets (even if it means putting in another firewire card or - in a laptop- a PCMCIA or Expresscard).

TI is the gold standard for audio interface manufacturers.

Yes, and check to see what the manufacturer of the interface recommends. I picked up a TI card and have no problems at all.
 
I actually did it the opposite way.. I went from a firepod to a delta 1010.. Now that I have some experience with the 1010 I can make a better comparison.

When my firepod was working it was great. My computer at the time wasn't the best machine but definately not too bad.. I had more than the minimum requirements that's for sure.. Still i found it would go outta sync with my computer on a regular basis. Once it got in sync it was usually fine until I turned off my computer.. Then one day the light turned red and never went into sync with my computer again. Presonus wouldn't help me out at all and in the end it would have cost me more to fix the problem then to buy a new firepod.

I didn't like relying on it to sync up to my computer so I decided to go with a pci card.

Now my system is rock solid as far as reliability goes but unfortunately I was in a pinch and couldn't get great pre amps.. my firepod sounded alot better than my currrent set up but that can be fixed if i just get some new pre's or a better mixer.

Now that I have a new computer I might venture into the world of firewire again.. but i'd never deal with presonus ever again

I hear really good things about motu... that might be the way to go
 
Still i found it would go outta sync with my computer on a regular basis. Once it got in sync it was usually fine until I turned off my computer.. Then one day the light turned red and never went into sync with my computer again.

Again, probably a chipset thing. Were you using onbpard firewire? Was it TI? My firepod has never, not once, lost sync with either of my 2 desktops or my laptop
 
When my firepod was working it was great. My computer at the time wasn't the best machine but definately not too bad.. I had more than the minimum requirements that's for sure.. Still i found it would go outta sync with my computer on a regular basis. Once it got in sync it was usually fine until I turned off my computer.. Then one day the light turned red and never went into sync with my computer again. Presonus wouldn't help me out at all and in the end it would have cost me more to fix the problem then to buy a new firepod.

Do you still have the dead FIREPOD? This sounds like it might be the infamous PHY death problem that a lot of FIREPOD users have experienced. If you're good with a heat gun, you can fix it yourself, though I'm not sure I'd recommend it. It might be a failed inline fuse or it might be the PHY itself. If it's a line fuse, it's a relatively easy surface mount soldering job.

If it's the PHY, you'll know it because you'll bridge all four (or six) line fuses and won't see any change in behavior. ISTR the FIREPOD having PHY power coming from the unit itself, which should mean it only has four line fuses, but I could be wrong. Replacing the PHY would be a pain in the ass....
 
yeah i still have it .. I'm using line 1 and 2 as preamps right now.. I'm not particularly great with fixin shit like this although if it's a fuse problem that doesn't sound too scary
 
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