Is $180,000 for a Les Paul fair???

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turnitdown said:
He did post:
But the guitar pics show a stop tailpiece, and no finish fading where there was a Bigsby Trem tailpiece (the rest of the top is faded).... Wouldn't the drilling and replacement of the tailpiece type be considered a "Modification"? :confused:
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He said original tuners and bigsby are in case, no OTHER modifications, meaning that he knows the bigsby and tuners are a modification, but thats it. :p
 
The "Truth"

The Les Paul is a $800 guitar
The SG is a $300 guitar
The Strat is a $600 guitar
The Ric is an $800 bass
The Jazz is a $600 bass, but only with case, Ashtray/w mute and PU Cover
The Precision is a $500 Bass
Any other prices are just marketing.
:p :D
 
lbanks said:
The Les Paul is a $800 guitar
The SG is a $300 guitar
The Strat is a $600 guitar
The Ric is an $800 bass
The Jazz is a $600 bass, but only with case, Ashtray/w mute and PU Cover
The Precision is a $500 Bass
Any other prices are just marketing.
:p :D
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I think an SG is more expensive to produce than a strat. Mahogany is more expensive, having a set neck is more expensive, and the strat is designed to be mass produced by machines.
 
ibanezrocks said:
I think an SG is more expensive to produce than a strat. Mahogany is more expensive, having a set neck is more expensive, and the strat is designed to be mass produced by machines.
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I remember reading that quote from Leo Fender saying his design was based around mass production. :D
 
lbanks said:
The Les Paul is a $800 guitar
The SG is a $300 guitar
The Strat is a $600 guitar
The Ric is an $800 bass
The Jazz is a $600 bass, but only with case, Ashtray/w mute and PU Cover
The Precision is a $500 Bass
Any other prices are just marketing.
:p :D
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Well, folks could quibble over the exact dollar figure that would be "correct" for each of those models but, in a nutshell, I'd say that pretty much sums it up. Very well said!
 
I think it's usual practice for eBay bidders to wait until the last minute to bid.

Aaaah. So if I want to pay $5K for a guitar that's worth maybe $2K on the market, and would be worth, say, $200 to me personally, then that's how to do it! I'll file that away for future use.
 
lpdeluxe said:
Aaaah. So if I want to pay $5K for a guitar that's worth maybe $2K on the market, and would be worth, say, $200 to me personally, then that's how to do it! I'll file that away for future use.
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I don't understand that post. All I was doing was trying to explain why you were not seeing any bids on e-Bay.
 
the thing that i find funny is, with enough distortion and other effects, all guitars sound exactly the same anyway :o :p

... oh, and can a Variax do a '59 Les Paul? i bet it won't be long until they can, and i bet they won't be able to Give away the real thing away, then! :D :P

andy
 
Outlaws said:
I remember reading that quote from Leo Fender saying his design was based around mass production. :D
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To an engineer involved in manufacturing, you'd have to say yep.
 
andydeedpoll said:
the thing that i find funny is, with enough distortion and other effects, all guitars sound exactly the same anyway :o :p

... oh, and can a Variax do a '59 Les Paul? i bet it won't be long until they can, and i bet they won't be able to Give away the real thing away, then! :D :P

andy
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Current LPs already can reproduce the sound to a T, its the fact that it plays well.....and its finely crafted....you know that stuff? Well, anyways...
 
I don't understand that post.

I was just thinking out loud...I meant, now I know how to bid on a guitar I don't particularly want that costs more than it's worth to me while ensuring that no one else gets it.

I guess you had to be there.

BTW, Mr #, I already have a Les Paul, and I don't expect a divorce any time soon.

So how's summer been in London? It's been cool here -- only over 100F a few days.
 
An LP and a good wife seems as good a recipe for happiness as any I can think of....:)

Been a good summer here, it hit about 90F just last week (too hot to be in a city) but you can feel Autumn just coming now. The weather here rarely does anything extreme though, it's almost always liveable, I'm glad I don't live in New York......
 
Garry Sharp said:
I think it's usual practice for eBay bidders to wait until the last minute to bid.
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In most cases I don't think this is true. Many will wait until the last minute to bid the final price, but most will bid early to get their name in the pot and have an email with item info as well. That gives them a reference for later review and quick recall.

Where no bidding occurs until the final part is where the starting bid is very high, which is the case with this item. However most auctions on EBay don't follow this model.

Ed
 
Well, I'll just have to sit on my $180K until I get the definitive answer. I don't really need another LP anyway.
 
lpdeluxe said:
Well, I'll just have to sit on my $180K until I get the definitive answer. I don't really need another LP anyway.
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Sounds like good advice to me.

Ed
 
Garry Sharp said:
Yeah, but the point is who buys it and why. You say "It's a '59 dude" and that tells me that if you won the lottery or something you might buy it for what it is, you would love it and appreciate it, play it, like you say they don't make 'em anymore.
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No I wouldn't go out and buy one if I won the lottery.

I[ve played several old Pauls - including my friend's '59 - which has a very meaty sound, and a thick almost baseball bat neck. I played a '60 about two years ago - more high-end and a wider, flatter neck.

But the best I ever played was a 30th Anniversary goldtop re-issue that I used to own - wonderful guitar.

But not as good as my red 345. (That's why I traded the re-issue - didn't play it anymore)

I am fortunate enough to have all the guitars I want, except for a really nice jazzer - so my lottery trophy guitar would be a 1961/2 Johnny Smith or a '50s acoustic Super 400 (okay, if the right L-5 came along . . .).

The "it's a '59 , dude" is a reference to those guys who don't have a clue but buy them because it's what you're supposed to have if you are 'cool'. Sadly, they get the money and have to have the 'burst.

I'd much rather see the guy with a well-played Epiphone Coronet with the P-90 and the 3-on-a-side tuners, or a rosewood neck '59 Strat, because he prefers rosewood necks. It shows much more class and discernment.
 
foo said:
The "it's a '59 , dude" is a reference to those guys who don't have a clue but buy them because it's what you're supposed to have if you are 'cool'. Sadly, they get the money and have to have the 'burst.
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Well, Joe Perry lost his '59 and was heart broken. Its not like he couldn't afford to go buy another one, but he loved that guitar...and in all the articles its always refered to as 'his '59'...as in his only. Now he might have more than one, but apparantly, it was one he like more than any other. Then Slash I guess came into possession and gave it back as a b-day gift.

Sounds like there might be more to it than just another guitar if it can mke someone like Joe Perry hurt so much. You would think he owns like 10 of them just to own them. ;)
 
Along those lines....how much would 'Pearly Gates' be worth to The Rev?

I wonder how much my 62 Les Paul(sg) would be worth today?

Or the 65 TV SG Custom?

How would I have known to hang on to em for all these years?

Still.....$800 for the 62 in 1976 was a LOT of dough. $1200 in 1979 for the TV...I wonder what happened to all that scratch????????oh yea..............

D...I...V...O...R...C...E
 
Outlaws said:
Well, Joe Perry lost his '59 and was heart broken. Its not like he couldn't afford to go buy another one, but he loved that guitar...and in all the articles its always refered to as 'his '59'...as in his only. Now he might have more than one, but apparantly, it was one he like more than any other. Then Slash I guess came into possession and gave it back as a b-day gift.

Sounds like there might be more to it than just another guitar if it can mke someone like Joe Perry hurt so much. You would think he owns like 10 of them just to own them. ;)
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hmm... i can kinda see where you're coming from... but, as an example, my trombone is not a particularly good instrument... in fact its rubbish :p. but i've played it everday since i was eleven years old and i would be absolutely devastated if it ever got broken or stolen or i had to sell it. it's worth about £50, literally... the guy at a music shop wouldn't even value it, its that bad! its not like it was handcrafted by anyone. it probably started life as a big sheet of metal, was stuck in a machine and came out the other side as a trombone :p theres aboslutely no physical value to the instrument what-so-ever.

i've got to replace it before i go to college or university, but i'd honestly think twice about giving up my current one, if i Had to get rid of it. i know every nuance of that instrument - every dent and scratch has a story.

instruments can have massive amounts of sentimental value - i'm sure Joe Perry didn't want to keep that instrument simply because it was a good guitar, because like you said, theres hundreds of other 'good guitars' out there.

i dont know... i'm not even sure if thats related. just saying that the physical value of an instrument doesn't necessarily mean people are going to want to be more attached to it or want to play it more.

Andy
 
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