interns? am i being abused?

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NL5 said:
Def not. I checked out the studios samples. Chris will outgrow the studio in no time, I would imagine.
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do you have a link?
 
danny.guitar said:
I would have told him to stick an SM57 up his ass.
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I would have gone for a different sound. Maybe a radio mic like an Electrovoice, or perhaps a ribbon. Whatever mic I would use would have to be wider than an Sm57.









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JESUS, I jsut checked out the audio samples on line (can you believe i never had) THEY SUCK, i mean honestly this is a little disturbing, I really like the guy i "work" for, and i WILL learn to use a bunch of stuff i dont know how to use yet, but i better figure out how to make it sound nice on my own cuz really i was not impressed, i think (im stepping very softly here) that i might have recorded some better quality stuff then what i heard. WOW
 
Chris Jahn said:
JESUS, I jsut checked out the audio samples on line (can you believe i never had) THEY SUCK, i mean honestly this is a little disturbing, I really like the guy i "work" for, and i WILL learn to use a bunch of stuff i dont know how to use yet, but i better figure out how to make it sound nice on my own cuz really i was not impressed, i think (im stepping very softly here) that i might have recorded some better quality stuff then what i heard. WOW
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Glad to hear that you thought the sucked, because I sure did. My home studio tracks are quite a bit better IMHO, and I am nowhere near the level of having "interns"...........
 
NL5 said:
Glad to hear that you thought the sucked, because I sure did. My home studio tracks are quite a bit better IMHO, and I am nowhere near the level of having "interns"...........
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I am, I am probably the greatest engineer alive. Chris, you can come intern for me, I need my car oil changed, my bathrooms cleaned and perhaps you can play with my m-audio card if you do a good job. :D
 
DavidK said:
I am, I am probably the greatest engineer alive. Chris, you can come intern for me, I need my car oil changed, my bathrooms cleaned and perhaps you can play with my m-audio card if you do a good job. :D
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same here Chris, then when your done, you can be my bitch :p
where is the link???
 
Yes, I can't find the link either. Interested to listen.
 
yea..... at least i knew the studio i was at was ligit.
 
Chris Jahn said:
this should be it, its kinda embarising to tell you the truth

www.hotsound.com
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Yeah, what's weird the the Modern Hard Rock sample sounds so much different than all the other samples. Anway the samples are fairly lackluster and I'm pretty sure I could get similar results here in my basement.
 
Yeah, when you go through the list of gear, look at the photos, and know (like i do) that the head engineer has been doing this for 20 plus years and has owned that particular studio for 15 its kinda disapointing. Others please check out the page, im trying to convince myself that jsut learning the stuff thats there is worth my time, even if its not a super fantastic studio!!!

once again

www.hotsound.com
 
Kinda' sounds like the movie "The Devil wears Prada," and this guy is like Meryl Streep's character. :D

You have to look at this stuff from a relative standpoint. I know nothing about the New York market, so it's a tough call. If this were Chicago, and you were interning at CRC, Electrical Audio or even Rax Trax, then I would generally say that you should stick it out and eat every shit sandwich that was thrown to you, because the potential opportunity and payoff is there.

On the other hand, if you're at Joe Hot Shit recording, then frankly, there's a 99.9% chance you're wasting your time to begin with. I don't see a lot of professional advancement opportunity to have Hot Shit Recording on your resume, so if you're doing shit jobs just because Joe Hot Shit knows he can get free work out of the deal, then unless you like doing shit jobs for the sake of doing shit jobs, it's probably time to get out.
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ok ok we know it sucks, but i guess the opinion i would like is, "is it worth it to stick around" cuz HE may not be the best, but can haveing access to his gear and teaching myself (im a fast self learner) make it worth my time, i mean he has decent stuff, and i dont really have access to this gear any other way and i want to learn how to use it, soooooo, does shitty studio = no posibility of learning?
 
Chris Jahn said:
ok ok we know it sucks, but i guess the opinion i would like is, "is it worth it to stick around"?
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Chris,

What is too pricey for one person is a bargain for another. Only you can calculate whether you think that the positive returns you are getting from your internship are worth the costs you are paying for them.

G.
 
I listened to several of the sound clips on the site. Nothing was awful but I wasn't very impressed. Might be worth interning for a while to get hands on experience with the mikes and hardware they have though.
 
Th clips are not that bad. Its the players that are the worst, some real corny shit I think. The sound was ok I guess. Its a Neve desk and what looks to be some nice outnoard gear even if they cant spell...hey I cant. If you learn the gear and the studio routine maybe its worth it. You should not have to get down on your knees to get an intern gig though. I dont think its exactly like the "wax on, wax off" movie.
 
Chris Jahn said:
ok ok we know it sucks, but i guess the opinion i would like is, "is it worth it to stick around" cuz HE may not be the best, but can haveing access to his gear and teaching myself (im a fast self learner) make it worth my time, i mean he has decent stuff, and i dont really have access to this gear any other way and i want to learn how to use it, soooooo, does shitty studio = no posibility of learning?
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The last thing I want to do is to cheapen your experience at this studio. You should be very excited about the opportunity of being there. Don't build up any resentment over any of the things we say here.


On one hand, you have access to pretty decent gear, which most people don't have. That's a very good thing. But on the other hand, from what I've heard, I don't know what this guy is going to teach you about mixing songs. At least in a way that'll make you highly marketable.

I'm no Chris Lord-Alge, Andy Wallace, Al Shmitt, Ron Germain, Terry Date, whatever. But I always listen to thier stuff and I work at getting to that. Regardless of who I work with, where I'm at, I never forget to trust my ear first and foremost.

I mean, I'm guessing this guy is a gifted bussiness man, a good technician or something. I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Starting out, I think the exposure is fine. Learning about signal flow with the board, reading up on the gear you see in the studio, then applying it during downtime are smart things to do for yourself.

If you stay or not depends entirely on you. Making records for a living is an extremely competitive bussiness, and like any carreer, making smart desicions is a skill you need to develope. You have to think outside the realm of that studio. Most of the engineers making those albums you love jumped from studio to studio throughout thier carreers.

You really have to apply yourself as if the time you have there is limited.

So I think if I where you, I would take advantage that you at least have some gear laying around and get to mess around with it as much as you can.
 
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