Interesting Mic controversy

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DJL said:
The page context has been changed many times and has been watered down from the original... our mics are better than Neumann mics... to the hinted better than Neumann type theme they keep... and if they were smart they will change it again and correct it this time once and for all.

Anyway, I believe my above suggestions would help them... but they can do whatever they want. Goodbye.

DJL,

I have stood by watching your posts and have said nothing, but now I suggest you retract your statements or provide documentation where our web site said "our mics are better than Neumann mics"...

You make things up and these lies your telling is now slandering my company. You have said in another post, PMI Audio does not make their microphones, that I personally ran off ADK and Tom Cram, and you said my employees that I pay are attacking you on HR. I hope you have proof for all of this.

We have four full time design engineers. Full prototyping, a machine shop not 150 feet outside our back door, and full design software. We make all of our own Gerber files, BOM's, schematics, and prototypes, as well as having our own capsule designs that we did in 3D design.

You better stop telling lies about our company's abilities, and what is in print on our web site. Enough is enough out of you. You better cease and desist now.

In another post you said you have millions of dollars. Did you not say you could by all three of my companies because you made millions in your investments? Well I will be happy to take all of it, unless you stop telling lies and making false statements about my company. There are too many witnesses on this site who can attest to your posts and what you have said....

You are opening up yourself to problems...Retract your statements and stop the lies, or we will fight for our rights.
 
it's starting to sound like this, stop crying Alan and go design a really good mic or a fix for my C1
 

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Why is threatening to sue somebody the answer to everything these days? I hate that kind of bullying shit. Nobody listens to DJL except you. Why can't you just ignore him?
 
you know what all good ldc's should have, massive presents boosts in all the sibelent frequencies.
 
you know what all good ldc's should have, massive presents boosts in all the sibelent frequencies.
I thought that was already accomplished with the C1
 
FWIW, here's the paragraph that everyone is having shit fits about:

"We think it's quite simple. Our mics are every bit as good or better at a fraction of the cost you would pay for a world class German microphone. No, we are not a German mic, but we sure do sound like those $3,000.00 models. We use an outstanding capsule based on a 1950's German design, but we have made it sonically better due to advanced manufacturing techniques. We know as much as about mics as any microphone company out there with the exception of what we charge for them. After all, PMI Audio Group knows good sound and by bringing Studio Projects in directly without the added middleman stepping all over the product, we can make them very affordable."

So, we have "our mics are every bit as good or better at a fraction of the cost you would pay for a world class German microphone" and "we sure do sound like those $3,000.00 models [of German mics]" and "We use an outstanding capsule based on a 1950's German design, but we have made it sonically better". And those statements are accompanied by a couple of pictures of old Neumanns.

I don't think DJL is off base in saying that you claim to be better than Neumanns. You certainly claim to be at least as good (but at a lower price and with a better sounding capsule). It's all puffery, though. Every manufacturer claims stuff like that. And everyone can do it because it's not objectively verifyable. Big deal. You and DJL should both be sent to your rooms for a "time out".
 
DJL doesn't have millions of dollars. He also doesn't have a clue about actual recording.
I'm still pretty sure he's a 14 year old using his parents internet connection.
I gladly invite him to show proof to the contrary.

H2H
 
alanhyatt said:
DJL,

I have stood by watching your posts and have said nothing, but now I suggest you retract your statements or provide documentation where our web site said "our mics are better than Neumann mics"...

You make things up and these lies your telling is now slandering my company. You have said in another post, PMI Audio does not make their microphones, that I personally ran off ADK and Tom Cram, and you said my employees that I pay are attacking you on HR. I hope you have proof for all of this.

We have four full time design engineers. Full prototyping, a machine shop not 150 feet outside our back door, and full design software. We make all of our own Gerber files, BOM's, schematics, and prototypes, as well as having our own capsule designs that we did in 3D design.

You better stop telling lies about our company's abilities, and what is in print on our web site. Enough is enough out of you. You better cease and desist now.

In another post you said you have millions of dollars. Did you not say you could by all three of my companies because you made millions in your investments? Well I will be happy to take all of it, unless you stop telling lies and making false statements about my company. There are too many witnesses on this site who can attest to your posts and what you have said....

You are opening up yourself to problems...Retract your statements and stop the lies, or we will fight for our rights.


Alan,

Have a V-8. Relax. In my observations, most folks don't like DJL for the manner of his criticism of your company. Some support him. Many here support your position. Some don't like your manner either, If anything, your mic sales have probably increased due to DJL's posts, not decreased.

You can yell and scream all you want about DJL's opinions. Even if what he says are slanderous lies, you will lose your case because there's been no damage to PMI. Prove sales have decreased because of DJL's comments. You can start with me. I tried your mics (not all, but enough of them) because of DJL's posts. I might have purchased them but didn't, because they did not sound like "expensive German mics", which is what you said they would sound like. So who's the liar Alan? Or, as we all agreed 6 months ago - isn't it is just opinion?
 
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I could swear I've read this stuff at least a couple of times before. I don't know if anyone reads all the words of all the long posts of who said what when why etc.

back to the issue (the mic one) this old dated, reused design works for me. I don't care who improved it or tuned it or whatever, I'm just glad there's a version of it I can afford to try, so far I'm liking it a heck of a lot. (nady tcm1150) Thanks for the heads up on it from the Kidv guy.
 
junplugged said:
back to the issue (the mic one) this old dated, reused design works for me. I don't care who improved it or tuned it or whatever, I'm just glad there's a version of it I can afford to try, so far I'm liking it a heck of a lot. (nady tcm1150) Thanks for the heads up on it from the Kidv guy.

...Glad you're enjoyin' the mic Jun...ain't that what we come here for...nuff respect to the Strong Island Posse...
 
Headline... PMI Audio Group threatens to harm people on the internet.

alanhyatt said:
DJL,

I have stood by watching your posts and have said nothing, but now I suggest you retract your statements or provide documentation where our web site said "our mics are better than Neumann mics"...

You make things up and these lies your telling is now slandering my company. You have said in another post, PMI Audio does not make their microphones, that I personally ran off ADK and Tom Cram, and you said my employees that I pay are attacking you on HR. I hope you have proof for all of this.

We have four full time design engineers. Full prototyping, a machine shop not 150 feet outside our back door, and full design software. We make all of our own Gerber files, BOM's, schematics, and prototypes, as well as having our own capsule designs that we did in 3D design.

You better stop telling lies about our company's abilities, and what is in print on our web site. Enough is enough out of you. You better cease and desist now.

In another post you said you have millions of dollars. Did you not say you could by all three of my companies because you made millions in your investments? Well I will be happy to take all of it, unless you stop telling lies and making false statements about my company. There are too many witnesses on this site who can attest to your posts and what you have said....

You are opening up yourself to problems...Retract your statements and stop the lies, or we will fight for our rights.
I stand by what I really said about PMI Audio Group... and I'm not retracting anything.

Quote:
Originally Posted by alanhyatt
I like girls and DJL likes barn animals...

Originally Posted by alanhyatt
I believe you are spending too much time in the barn again messin with those animals.

Originally Posted by alanhyatt
Should I go back to all your posts to get all the descriptive adjectives you have called me over the last two years? Just remember tough guy, you started this whole thing. For two years you have been a one man crusade against our products, and our company. So don't talk to me about limits, because you have already shown you are up to do anything.

What I call you, or what I think of you is every bit justified based on your actions. I personally think you are a sick fuck. You seem to have some need of power or control. My guess is your wife is the boss of your house, or perhaps you were beat or rapped by your father as a young boy. Did you grow up on a farm perhaps? What ever it is, look to yourself. Fix that, and this is fixed.

As long as you continue your rant, we will be there to defend ourselves. Please, don't give me your nice guy routine because that is worse than your just being a plain old ass hole. So how long this keeps up is up to you.

Alan Hyatt
PMI Audio Group
Studio Projects Joemeek Toft Audio
www.pmiaudio.com

Originally Posted by alanhyatt
DJL "is" under the veil of anonymity. I know many of your names out there, but DJL persists to remain nameless. Maybe he is afraid a few people will visit him and take him out if he does reveal who he is. If I were him at this point, I would not give out my real name either.... :edek:

We all know DJL is a big tough guy behind a computer screen who can curse out the best of everyone. Put him in a room without his computer and a few of us, and I bet he would sing a different tune altogether.

Originally Posted by alanhyatt
You know, anyone can spend a few hundred dollars to a PI, and your address can be posted all over the internet. Imagine all the mail and gift packages you would get.
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You better hope to God nothing happens to me... and if you push this be prepared to see your slander and threats all over the news.
 
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wow did Alan really say all that just you don't like his chinese stuff?? I sort of thought more highly of him than that. but then again i still keep hoping for a C1 fix
 
slobbermonster said:
wow did Alan really say all that just you don't like his chinese stuff?? I sort of thought more highly of him than that. but then again i still keep hoping for a C1 fix
Yes... and that is only a little sample... I have a full hard drive that I placed in a safety deposit box with instructions to my attorney in my will just incase PMI Audio Group hurts me.
 
DJL said:
I have a full hard drive that I placed in a safety deposit box with instructions to my attorney in my will just incase PMI Audio Group hurts me.

Oh my god, get a life.

And post some samples of your work.

H2H
 
Look at what Mr. Alan Hyatt CEO of PMI Audio Group just sent me... and by the way Alan the message you sent me isn't an email... therefore, I am posting it for everyone to see.

I believe this is just more proof that PMI-AG will do anything to market their products and shut people up who don't like their cheap Chinese made mics and etc.

QUOTE:

Cease & Desist

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If you think I am kidding, keep it up. You are lying about what my company does and what it says. Just because several of the posters here do not think our products keep up with German mikes costing $3,000.00, there are 25 professional reviewers, and 100 or more produceers, artists, and engineers who do. We do not say we are better than Neumann.

We do not rebadge microphones, and there is no one who attacks you that is on my payroll...So again, I care less what is in your attorny's safebox, because I think that is a lie. However, please e-mail his address since you now claim you have representation, you now must give me his address so he may be contacted....Ask your attorney...I want his address. Don't make me hunt you down, because I will. I know someone who has your address through a publication, so I can get it.

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PMI Audio Group
Studio Projects Joemeek Toft Audio
www.pmiaudio.com



Mr. Alan Hyatt... I believe my above post already proved PMI Audio Group (YOU) has verbally attacked me... and I don't know if you "rebadge microphones" or not, nor have I ever said you "rebadge microphones"... and you better read again what I said... because I never said I put anything in my ATTORNY'S safebox. Also, I do beleive you are incinerating on your web page that Studio Projects/797 Audio mics are better than Neumann mics... so I don't beleive I am lying about your company. And this thread proves I'm not the only one who believes the above.

Oh, and while you are at it... why don't you tell everyone here who you are going to get my address from... so they all can be forewarned that their address isn't safe with that publication. Also, that way if and when I get hurt everyone will know who aided you in hurting me.
 
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OMG, this thread is pathetic.

Same thing happened on another board, guy flames company, company doesn't take it, guy has to go to court soon, guy lost the good job he had and he can say goodbye to his carriere. (he's only 19 years old)

Bottom line: nobody wins, only losers.

Stop this pathetic game, you too Alan, please?
 
Han said:
OMG, this thread is pathetic.

Same thing happened on another board, guy flames company, company doesn't take it, guy has to go to court soon, guy lost the good job he had and he can say goodbye to his carriere. (he's only 19 years old)

Bottom line: nobody wins, only losers.

Stop this pathetic game, you too Alan, please?
I not going to let some company bully me and make me feel like I can't post my opinions... however, I've alway respected you Han... so I deleted the other post... and only because you've asked I will stop... with that said, I'm done.
 
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DJL said:
Also, I do beleive you are incinerating on your web page that Studio Projects/797 Audio mics are better than Neumann mics... .

...the sad thing here is, I doubt there are any followers of this BB that give this moron (DJL) any thread of credibility to begin with...there are a few other constant flamers of Chinese made microphones on this site (we all know who they are) but at least they have established some sense of credibility as engineers/musicians who have some real world experience with these products, while this loser is nothing more than annoying fool...I mean, c'mon..."incinerating"?...you gotta be kidding...

Alan...don't waste your time with this guy...those of us who actually use the products discussed on this site are more than capable of judging the value they possess...I truly doubt anybody would refuse to purchase any well respected product sold at a very affordable price because of something said by this character (or another like him)...let it go...(besides, the guy is already pissing in his pants)...
 
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