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fldrummer
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Anybody work with these? Worth the cash for a dual 2.8 xeon?
Simman
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Work with them all the time. The Xeon was deigned for the workstation & server environments. Will provide additional horsepower but may not be necessary for your situation to justify the added cost.
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fldrummer
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Do any pro audio programs use it? I mean...not just run on it but utilize the things xeon can do.
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christiaan
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IMHO all a bit academic.
Just because it's there doesn't mean we need it.
Pro audio software requires much less than a dual Xeon 2.8 setup.
Music just won't go faster than realtime. If you can run it with less (and it will, with much less), all the extra horsepower is simply wasted.
Just because it's there doesn't mean we need it.
Pro audio software requires much less than a dual Xeon 2.8 setup.
Music just won't go faster than realtime. If you can run it with less (and it will, with much less), all the extra horsepower is simply wasted.
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manning1
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xeon.
if it were me i would go for an amd barton 2500 cpu.
an easy way to benchmark and see which does audio fastest.
ask the xeon and then the amd to batch process echo on 10 1 minute audio files ie: find some cpu intensive task and time it.
i think the amd will surprise you.
if it were me i would go for an amd barton 2500 cpu.
an easy way to benchmark and see which does audio fastest.
ask the xeon and then the amd to batch process echo on 10 1 minute audio files ie: find some cpu intensive task and time it.
i think the amd will surprise you.
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fldrummer
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I dont plan to use it JUST for audio recording. I'm going to use it for audio recording/mixing, 3D graphics(like maya) Video editing/recording(premiere pro), Exteme gaming and other things. I think the xeon will be a over kill but I always like to go big 
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Marquis
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The only issue with the Xeons is that most of the chipsets designed for it aren't very good.
If you don't need onboard SCSI and multiple GigE NICs, check out the ASUS PC-DL Deluxe. It uses the 875 chipset, which IMHO is much better than the 75xx series chipsets.
Of course, ensure that you have the right kind of power supply if you do go with a Xeon board, as they all (AFAIK, anyway) require an EPS12V P/S.
I doubt that you'll see much of an improvement in audio apps with the Xeons, but the 3D graphics apps will love 'em.
If you don't need onboard SCSI and multiple GigE NICs, check out the ASUS PC-DL Deluxe. It uses the 875 chipset, which IMHO is much better than the 75xx series chipsets.
Of course, ensure that you have the right kind of power supply if you do go with a Xeon board, as they all (AFAIK, anyway) require an EPS12V P/S.
I doubt that you'll see much of an improvement in audio apps with the Xeons, but the 3D graphics apps will love 'em.
Teacher
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more horsepower the better!!
i got me a dual athlon 1900+ MP....on 96khz sessions i find my CPU not being able to handle the load of all the plug-ins i use(very intense ones like waves, timeworks, psp etc.)...i need to upgrade!
i got me a dual athlon 1900+ MP....on 96khz sessions i find my CPU not being able to handle the load of all the plug-ins i use(very intense ones like waves, timeworks, psp etc.)...i need to upgrade!
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c9-2001
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wel i do have a dual 2.8gig xeon 
i've only used it 2 times during a session because at the time M-audio didn't have a PCI-X card for the 1010...
my main daw is a xp2500+ overclocked to xp3000 on a abit nf7 mb...
as nice and powerful the xp2500 is, its not touching the dual xeon... steinberg recommends that you use xeon cpus for nuendo 2 and sx2.. i use nuendo. when it comes down to 24/96... you NEED the extra horsepower.. because the xp2500 isn't gonna cut it when you start the mix... waves plugins and 24/96 will top it out quick...
only down fall is alot of audio apps don't work well with hyperthreading.. so you have to tern it off.. once i get my pci-x card from midiman, i'll let you know how powerful the dual xeon i have really is..
i have a dual 2gig G5, anyone want it? its for sale
i've only used it 2 times during a session because at the time M-audio didn't have a PCI-X card for the 1010...my main daw is a xp2500+ overclocked to xp3000 on a abit nf7 mb...
as nice and powerful the xp2500 is, its not touching the dual xeon... steinberg recommends that you use xeon cpus for nuendo 2 and sx2.. i use nuendo. when it comes down to 24/96... you NEED the extra horsepower.. because the xp2500 isn't gonna cut it when you start the mix... waves plugins and 24/96 will top it out quick...
only down fall is alot of audio apps don't work well with hyperthreading.. so you have to tern it off.. once i get my pci-x card from midiman, i'll let you know how powerful the dual xeon i have really is..
i have a dual 2gig G5, anyone want it? its for sale
Teacher
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if your serious about selling your G5
you may find some buyers at this site
www.gearslutz.com
they have a gear classified section you could post it...
you may find some buyers at this site
www.gearslutz.com
they have a gear classified section you could post it...
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fldrummer
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Just wondering...Anybody try the Itanium?
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c9-2001
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i'm sure my dads company has the ones with 6mb cache.. they're the new SERIOUS server cpu's.. you can use them for a daw though.. i'd build a daw around a server anyways because the stabllity and 7 layer motherboards...fldrummer said:
the Itanium i beleave is the new version of the old titanium cpu. if your gonna build a system based with the Itanium cpu, get ready to spend A LOT of money. a decent system should run about 4-5g's..
i'm waiting on longhorn 64bit with in the next year or when ever then get a amd 64 3200
trogdor
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This might be a dumb question...
But how exactly do you build a PC with 2 cpu's? Do you have to get a motherboard that has two separate cpu slots? Or does it work differently than that? And can you double up any model of cpu or does it only work with certain ones?
also, if you build a dual 3ghz xeon system...is it the equivalent of having double the processing power (i.e. 6ghz)? Or is it a redundancy thing like a RAID array?
I built my Athlon 2100+ XP box a little while back, and didn't look into this option..
But how exactly do you build a PC with 2 cpu's? Do you have to get a motherboard that has two separate cpu slots? Or does it work differently than that? And can you double up any model of cpu or does it only work with certain ones?
also, if you build a dual 3ghz xeon system...is it the equivalent of having double the processing power (i.e. 6ghz)? Or is it a redundancy thing like a RAID array?
I built my Athlon 2100+ XP box a little while back, and didn't look into this option..
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Marquis
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The Itanium is NOT something you want to consider under any circumstances. While it technically will run IA-32 code, it will not run it quickly (it has an emulation mode to run it).
Natively it runs IA-64 instructions, which are misleadingly named similarly to the current instructions set. Actually, the processor architecture is based on VLIW (Very Large Instruction Word).
If you purchased an Itanium2 you will spend a lot of money and end up with a CPU that's capable of running 32-bit x86 instructions almost as fast a 600MHz PIII (I'm not kidding).
And BTW, a decent Itanium2 system will cost you at least $10,000.
Natively it runs IA-64 instructions, which are misleadingly named similarly to the current instructions set. Actually, the processor architecture is based on VLIW (Very Large Instruction Word).
If you purchased an Itanium2 you will spend a lot of money and end up with a CPU that's capable of running 32-bit x86 instructions almost as fast a 600MHz PIII (I'm not kidding).
And BTW, a decent Itanium2 system will cost you at least $10,000.
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c9-2001
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yea about 10,000 with supermicro mb and a some nice 15k scsi drives...
Marquis, you remember the titanium, had shit load of power but as you stated..running 32-bit x86 it was only a 800mhz cpu
trogdor, thats not a dumb question.. you just don't know. its not dumb.
as for a computer with 2cpus, yes you have to buy a motherboard with 2 cpu slots to do so..
the athlonxp's you can't have as dual machines last time i checked.. but you can have a dual athlon MP machine..
Marquis, you remember the titanium, had shit load of power but as you stated..running 32-bit x86 it was only a 800mhz cpu
trogdor, thats not a dumb question.. you just don't know. its not dumb.
as for a computer with 2cpus, yes you have to buy a motherboard with 2 cpu slots to do so..
the athlonxp's you can't have as dual machines last time i checked.. but you can have a dual athlon MP machine..
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Marquis
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I think you're thinking of the original Itanium. It too was a pile...
As for Athlon XPs not being able to run dually, it depends on how much time you want to spend modifying small bridges on the CPU itself.
In reality, there is no difference between the Athlon XPs and the MPs other than some differences in the bridge arrangement (meaning only one of the XPs will be detected in a dual-CPU Athlon board). Of course, the enthusiast community quickly discovered how to fix that.
As for Athlon XPs not being able to run dually, it depends on how much time you want to spend modifying small bridges on the CPU itself.
In reality, there is no difference between the Athlon XPs and the MPs other than some differences in the bridge arrangement (meaning only one of the XPs will be detected in a dual-CPU Athlon board). Of course, the enthusiast community quickly discovered how to fix that.
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manning1
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i wouldnt bother
within 2 years probably we will hit for home use 5 ghz processors. i would use something that keeps you happy
for a small price like a amd 2500.
not for me the xeon or mp. or even dual processors.
i can do all i want to do with a 2500.
within 2 years probably we will hit for home use 5 ghz processors. i would use something that keeps you happy
for a small price like a amd 2500.
not for me the xeon or mp. or even dual processors.
i can do all i want to do with a 2500.
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c9-2001
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i to use a athlonxp 2500+ daily..i even have mine overclocked to xp3000 or xp3200.. i fergot..
but as powerful as it is.. it still doesn't cut it when it comes to tracking 24/96. it can handle it, but once you start using eq's like the Voxengo GlissEq(which i love now) it eats up cpu power..
a dual 2.8 could take it no problem
but as powerful as it is.. it still doesn't cut it when it comes to tracking 24/96. it can handle it, but once you start using eq's like the Voxengo GlissEq(which i love now) it eats up cpu power..
a dual 2.8 could take it no problem
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manning1
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why anyone needs 96khz beats me.
but that arguments for another day.
but that arguments for another day.