instrumental tune

  • Thread starter Thread starter B.SABBATH
  • Start date Start date
Great song!

great playing!

great mix!

That's all I have to say.

It didn't download completely (up to 2:02 only) so I couldn't get to the "obnoxious" part. But for what I heard, it's a great job!

Yes, you could use it as an intro for a CD and it would sounf great!

Alejandro
 
Nice beginning with the "flipping through the radio" going into the opening.

My son says "That's Tight!" when the music begins ... he likes it...

This is totally cool, but I'm waiting for the drastic change that I find in every one of your songs...and then it happens right around 3:50 or so ...Kind of a bit of a coda chant thing going on at the end there with what sounds like a crowd, and then waking up from the dream ..

This works really well as an instrumental, but I'm wondering if it might work better with vocals over the first part? Just curious if you have considered it or not?

The mixing sounds great and I love the guitar and drum work on this.
 
that's strange?

i was having trouble with the hi. fi. too. when i streamed the vbs version with music match, it said the song was 31 minute's long!!
and was skipping all over the place. and the download for the v.b.s. was going to take about 30 minute's!! and im on cable.
so i downloaded the 128 version(it took longer than usual as well)
i dont know what the dealio is?

anyway, to the song!!:D first thing that came to my head was rob zombie, with the radio thing. then the song kicked in, and it was a sab tune all the way!! (there's no mistaking your style bro)
you know i can't comment on the mix, but this one did sound better than usual (imho) everything sounded great!!!!!!!!

but i do think the song it self was lacking(see cranky's comment's)
i can ditto that, i was waiting for something else to happen and it never did. all your tune's always hit me with a certain mood, with this one it was like just listening to how good everything sound"s
(if that make's any sense:rolleyes: ) and man, i just dont have any suggestion's either:( it's all samicide, but at the sametime it's missing b. sabbath??? damn i suck with word's!!!!!!

you still da man bro, i always look forward to your stuff!!!!!!!!!!

thank's man

peace

rick
 
Cranky One - I guess I don't make instrumentals interesting enough.. Whenever I make one, people say it needs vocals.. :D the others seem to agree with you.. thanks for the input. Yeah I blurred the lines of the guitar sound for the solos.. I used a whammy pedal, an E-Bow, and a Boss dynamic wah.. It does sound like a keyboard.. Theres also some keys that have distortion on them, there holding those long notes in the backround.. they sound a bit like a guitar.. This is probably the best drum sound I have been able to get yet.. As far as the streaming thing goes, I'm going to be maiking a real website soon.. I'll probably put all my tunes on there.. I have about 50 of them.. Hopefully it will work well.. I put a smaller version up on Nowhere also (128kbps) You can really hear the difference when you compare it to the VBR version, but it seems to stream a little bit better.. thanks! be talkin' soon..




flapo1 - thanks! that sux that it didn't download properly.. the end is nothing special anyway, just annoying..




boydrj - you are the only person who got the ending! :D thanks man.. See Cranky One's reply about the vocal excuses.. :D




fenderlikingood - I don't know what's up with Nowhere. See Cranky One's reply.. Actually your fine with words because I totally hear what your saying. :D thanks my man.. I might have to go back in and operate! I can't belive Rob Zombie stole my idea man! :eek:
 
When I listened to it last night...well actually this morning about 3:00am it streamed fine......noproblem at all. Now it's skipping though and the 128 version does too. Maybe it has to do with how many people are at Nowhere.
BTW....I liked it as an instrumental...and that other one you did too. I like music that just creates an atmosphere. Maybe I'm just weird.....hey! no maybe about it...I'm weird!!! :D
 
Sabbath....Nice toon! It all went together smooth and was easy to listen to all the was through. Did you do everything on there?

I like the sound on the end! :) I'm pissed cause as I was listening I couldn't tell if they were real drums or not. Usually I can tell right off the bat.

Great guitar playing..... To me all the parts were played appropriately for the song and nothing stood out that didn't fit.

Very tasty stuff!!!!!!!! :D
 
Lt. Bob,

Yeah, traffic can affect the streaming quality, either local, or remotely on NWR. Lets say traffic in your area is high, you'll be affected.

However, I wouldn't be suprised if it's local, traffic is up about 10x what it was on NWR, and I'll need to upgrade lines, and one of the servers soon, but need the $$$'s first.

W.
 
B.Sabb,

VBR is not widely compatible with all players and sound cards... Some can't handle the shifting bit-rates. Now it can be a local issue, as well as the extra traffic.

I haven't had an issue streaming anyones music, but I don't have 50 servers between me and NWR, I've only got about 5-6... I also have players that I know work.

W.
 
Sam--its skipping like crazy in VBR today. Judging from the bits that pop on now and then, its a solid mix. Great guitar sounds. Oh, whats this ending thing? Cool! Live at Cobo Hall!!

Damn, it keeps stopping. I'll try again another time and see if comes through better. I couldn't get the flow with all this stuttering, but keep me on the list, bro! :D
 
I checked the file for you, it's in a very high-bitrate VBR, and wildly shifts bit-rates. It's enough to confuse most players, and definately increases stream bandwidth.

I'd suggest making that one available for download only, and using the 128k version for streaming.

What are you using to encode with?

W.
 
Sounds like you were fairly pissed off about something when you put this together, I dont think it needs anything else doing to it except maybe a warning:

"Not suitable for playing in the Car"

It's the nearest thing to capturing musical bad temper I've heard in a long time, I'll listen to this next time I feel like kicking the dog.
As far as the recording goes, all I can say is it all sounded good to my ears great guitar sound and drums, No Vox required.
 
Your stuff is getting harder and harder to critique, because of the decent level of quality and the sheer enjoyment of it.

I've been having some streaming issues too lately...but not too much a major problem.

onwards...
To be on the REALLY critical edge:
the radio dial spinning....is neat...Pink Floyd too...remember? Like Track Rat, I think we've all done that one time or another..and you can only really do it on one tune!! eh?? but the alarm clock makes it all original!!

the intro playing is nice. It almost reminds me of some of the harder Mahavisnu Orchestra stuff with the guitar licks you do, minus any weird time signatures. The intro is just long enough. At 1:07, where you break...the bass sound you use is ok...but I'd take a "cleaner' Geddy "Ric" sound if you can get one...not quite as distorted. But...personal choice, I suppose. Also, at this point, this is where I'd like to hear a more "normal" guitar lead. I know you claim the "no playee guitaree" fame, but I think you could shred a decent solo here SANS ebow, whammy, etc. You get that stuff in the beginning, and now it is time to change gears, guitar wise. Or maybe some synth pads, since the chording starts to "wander" around looking for its place. Mind you, it all sounds good, but this is how I 'might' prefer it. At over 3 minutes of the thick chording and wildness on top of it, it starts to have a sameness to it, that is fine I suppose on a CD, but as a single, makes it a rough way to go. When you switch back to the radio stuff again, it might be neat to have the song you just did, as one of the songs you skip over, but in lofi....get it? The song does take a drastic change, and I know you like to do that, but it is less "convincing" than the drastic alarm clock ending... One of your musical mood swings that needs a transformation part.

Production wise, I think a change in the level of "thickness's" you go thru might help. Get rid of the linerarity that I always complain about on other peoples threads. Some additional 'ear candy' always works for me too. You know, the subtle headphone stuff.

Your recording chops are hard to critique also, because for the most part they are there. Your drums DO sound good. On some of the real high whammy notes, the high notes...like way up above dbl C, seem to change tone and crack up a bit. It almost sounds like my phone rings in the background, when I crank your music. I think more a function of the pedal, than the recording, however. Maybe to make things even more "bigger than life" you could thicken up the toms, and pan the drums even wider. That might revert you back to the 80's, however, but it is something I like. You might also see about some Proteus vocal patches too. I have never really used them myself, and don't own any. But I have heard some that are really on another level than the Roland/Alesis stuff. More $$$ !!! ha!

I'd like to comment more, as I really like to try and dig into high caliber stuff. It's good for me too. But, I seem to be running out of ideas, and I'm looking at the clock and have to take someone sailing in about a 1/2 hour.

I'm amazed that in the 8 hours I skipped viewing the clinic, you have a new thread with 25 responses. You outta be ashamed for taking up such valuable bandwidth.
:rolleyes:

I'll listen some more, but that's all I can spew for now....
 
wow. pretty intense.

IT MAKES ME THINK DARK THOUGHTS!!!!!!

MMMMMMURDERRRRRRRR!!!!!!!

nice tones. wish i could hear em better but youre right about the lo-fi taking no time at all...

you have 15 songs there????

huh!!!!!!

it will take me a looong time to listen to all of em.

i thought you was doing piano and cello stuffs!

:p
 
Man I LOVE whammy bar dips!!! They were standard for metal guitar in the 80's and I miss em. Cool harmonies going in certain spots. As always great guitar sound and I like the drums too. Cool atmosphere going on. Great as always.

Dont settle for second best!!
The King
 
TheRealWaldo - hey Waldo, I use music match. It has a VBR setting and you set the bit rate by percentage.. I set it to 100%. I did what you said and enabled the other one for download only.. The 128 seems to be playing decent right now.. Maybe if I don't use the 100% setting? Do you think that would help squeeze a bit more life? or should I just use 128.. I just upgraded my music match and they don't allow 160kbps anymore.. It's either 128 or less as far as mp3's go. You also have the windows file, the VBR, and wave etc... Should I encode to a Windows media file? 128 really does a number on the sound, but I guess beggers can't be choosey. thanks W




Lt. Bob - You like it as an instrumental because you know my voice would destoy it!! :eek: :D :D I'm looking forward to hearing your new dropped tune songs!! :D be talkin' soon




rushfan33 - I played all the instruments.. I'm not really good at any one thing, I just hack everything a little bit.. I was pretty happy with the drum sounds.. Hopefully I can get them even better.. thanks for the input man.




crawdad - I put up a 128 version that should stream better.. I made the high bit rate version 'download only.' It sounds much better, but you can still get the wiff from the 128 version.. It's amazing how much of a difference there is.. thanks for trying man.. I'll keep you on the list........ for now. :eek:
:D




Matt303 - thanks man! this is not as heavy as it can get though.. there are songs that, not only should they not be played in a car, but if you do you will want to swerve right into a telephone pole! :D I'm gonna check out your tune shortly..




mixmkr - nice to see you gave me something long to read.. I really do enjoy reading your comments. As far as the guitar playing goes, I'm sure by now you can hear my limitations. I don't even know any scales.. I just look for notes that sound right. Unfortunately, I'm running out of new guitar solo ideas.. I can't shred anything respectable, so I try to keep using new sounds.. It sounds like your getting sick of the same EBow regurgitation. :D you weren't crazy about the bass sound.. I really thought it sounded good, but I could hear what your saying with a Geddy Ric type sound fitting well.. I wish I could get that sound.. There was no J-Station on this tune.. I'll have to mess with that a bit and see what type of bass sound I can get out of it.. you said that on some of the higher stuff it 'cracks up a bit', are you sure your monitors are o.k.? :eek:
:D
I am always picky about stuff like that.. It's not easy to get a completely distorted sound without the crackle that I hear on so many other high distortion tunes here.. Your probably right though.. I'm wondering if some of my patch bay cables are getting fried.. Even the patch bay itself could be dying and taking sound with it and leaving crackles in its place.. I'll read your comments again and address more of the things you said.. thanks as always mix! (C.E.O.) :D




jeap - a few people have said that they thought I was a piano, cello guy.. :D I found that pretty funny.. thanks for the comments man!




King Elvis - Yeah that's probably why I love the whammy sounds so much.. I have been listening to 80's metal too much.. As a matter of fact, I'm going to a little outdoor 80's metal festival tomorrow.. Judas Priest are playing with the new singer, as well as Ratt, and a few others not really worth mentioning.. Gotta love that Whammy pedal. I guess you can't tell the guitar I used was a telecaster. :D thanks man!
 
Hey Sam,

So this is what it will sound like when someone accidentaly hears one of your tunes while surfing the dial.:)

You added a nice full pallette of mood with the synths and such. Gave the piece an "epic" feel.

I need to listen again to get more specific. I liked the first listen....I think you might have flew over the dynamics of the rhtythm in an arrangment sence. Could be just my stubborn and prejudice ears though. I'll give details later. Your choice of sounds was perfect and extremely effective!!

I was singin' along the whole time:D;)


later,

Theron.
 
B.SABBATH said:
I just upgraded my music match and they don't allow 160kbps anymore.. It's either 128 or less as far as mp3's go. You also have the windows file, the VBR, and wave etc...


You can always uninstall and revert back to the oldversion Sam if you dont like the new one.Here's a site that has ALL releases of the most popular software on the net.This is the musicmatch page.Scroll down to the bottom of the page and pick which previous version of Musicmatch you need.:
http://www.oldversion.com/mmatch.shtml



p.s.I just went ahead and shelled out the 20 dollars or whatever it was for the pay version of Musicmatch a few months back and it has the 160kbps option.There are really no other bells and whistles with the paid version though.
 
Well... I listened... and now since my name will inevitably show up on Sab's closely checked "who listened to my stuff" list, I guess I should actually say something.. :p :cool:

Um...

er...

actually.. I wasn't too fond of it. :eek: Though, it's not my style, so that is to be expected... but, if I'm "forced" to say something ;) I guess I should be honest. :p I agree aboot the "full" guitar sound. It definitely.. uh... "fills" everything oat nicely.. :D My main beef, that isn't "stylistic", (since preference of style means absolutely nothing) is that the drum licks really grated on me... those back-beat doublets that were always thrown in there, I thought, detracted from the song.. I don't know if you know which ones I'm talking aboot.. mostly snare doublets that hit on the one-and-two-and... Since it was programmed, (did someone think those were real??? :eek: :) ) you get a really "stiff", "choppy" feel everytime that type of hit happens. I totally understand that it's almost impossible to do that type of accent "properly" using drum programing, (it's more of a jazz accent, since this is 3/4) but it did start to get noticable in some places. (it even sounded off tempo at certain points.. you did use a metronome, right?) I guess I would suggest using a more straight "power" beat instead of jazzy accents.. they didn't totally "fit"... but I'm a drummer, so I tend to be more sensitive to "off" drumming than anything else, I guess.

That's definitely a quality guitar sound though.

WATYF
 
IMHO, MusicMatch VBR SUCKS.

Use LAME, you'll get much better results. And it's free.

MusicMatch just uses someone elses free codec and charges you for it, last I checked it was an old Xing codec.

W.
 
Awesome!

I really like the sound design elements, very musical. The mix is great, the sounds are perfectly placed, nice use of different reverbs, killer playing. It's very tasteful, whatever "it" is you've got it.

Rush meets Gary Numan meets David Lynch.

This one goes in my keeper folder!

Jon
 
Back
Top