Instrumental Metal Tune, Drop A Tuning

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I just changed the strings too... It was long overdue, so that should help out when I get to retrack...

The snare is always the same hit... I'm not sure why, the humanize thing is on in the DFHS plugin, doesn't really seem to do it though. I'll have to read up on it. The kick drum is made to be in your face sounding... purposely... That is just the sound I like.

I also have to get around to adjusting the intonation on my guitar too... I have to actually reverse a couple of the saddles for some fine tuning since it is a Gibson style setup. The 12th fret and open are just a hair off on the A string... Doesn't seem like a dificult tweak.
 
I'm going to turn the gain and drive down quite a bit and try it with 4 guitar tracks.
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Sounds like a good idea, just make sure that you don't use the same sound 4 different times or it kind of defeats the purpose. Also be careful when using the Pod, for whatever reason it has a way of eating up mix space. I have absolutely no explanation for this but it really does some whack things to a mix regardless of how you set the tone. Maybe they worked some of that out with the newer Xt.

I admit my post was confrontational. I did not mean it to be that way. I know, understand, and respect everyone's opinion and I hope to learn from you all.
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No problem man, we obviously have very different opinions. I won't elaborate any further out of respect for MonkeyManx (don't want to Hijack his thread).
 
Recorded the guitars with much less gain, this is the link:

New Mix

This time is is 6 mono guitar tracks... One site is panned 100%, another set is panned 80%, another is 60%... the 80% one uses a different cabinet sound... I may record another set to do 50 50 panning.... Still sounds heavy, a bit more clear in my opinion.... Let me know what you all think.
 
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Fixed the link... I had put the link's name in the url= line and the url where the name should have gone...
 
that's an excellent tune... a lot of contrast... I like it it

I still wanted to hear a wider heavy chuggin guitar... it's solely down the middle, but that's just my preference, otherwise... cool :cool:
 
I'm not sure what to do to widen the guitar... I have those panned L and R 100%, another L and R 80%, and another L and R 60%... Maybe try some kind of expander or something?
 
I would personally hard pan every track. 3 tracks hard left, 3 hard right.

I like this better in alot of ways, I think what it is that I dislike about it is simply my personal opinion and it has already been covered, no offense cause it is a really cool track.
It's definitely still heavy and more clear now. I think the characteristic "POD" sound is still very prominent. Not with the graininess like before, but it still has that certain sterile sound. Any particular reason why you use the POD over an amp? Simple logistics maybe? I used to do the same thing but I got to where I simply can't stand to go direct anymore so I expanded my arsenal accordingly ;) .
 
I actually sold all my live gear... Drums, Guitar amps... Rack setup and what not. I had a DIgitech 2101, into a sonic maximizer into a Marshall 9200 valve amp... It cranked and sounded awsome...

So basically, I record on my computer and this is just an easy setup versus micing a cab. I'll try to through another EQ over it that adds some more coloration or something. I'll also try throughing some kind of tube plugin on it to see if it takes the POD sound out. Although, I don't really mind the POD sound I'll see what I can do with it...

So your saying hard pan all the guitar tracks? I thought leaving at least one set somewhere near the center would sound good... I'll give it a try though.
 
Exponential Climb

Hey guys... I added bass guitar to the track and now all the guitar tracks are hard panned... Also added drum fills and such.

Still not sure about vocals... I usually do hip hop style vocals, some screaming and some singing... I'm not a spectacular singer, and I don't really do much screaming, more spoken word style stuff...
 
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Personally I dug it.
I think while the guitar does sound kind of metallic and possibly a bit sterile it goes well with that kind of music. I think there are a lot of bands in the genres of music that this might fit in that intentionally try for a this type of "industrial" (for lack of a better word) sounding guitar. I think a warm "tubey" tone, unless super high gain,and made to sound somewhat sterile would sound out of place in a song like this, or at least not get accross the same feel. If you go to Fear Factory's home page for instance, they list PODs in their recording gear. While this song doesn't really scream out fear factory, I think it would definitely fit in the genre of industrial metal. BTW, I dug the composition, and basic groove of it, and in case you couldn't tell, I thought the guitar tone fit the song very well.

amra
 
That last link is not working, but on a hunch I just used that link but changed "experimental" to "exponential" as that was the title in the other links... :cool: ....is that the new mix?
 
Yea, I messed up the link.. And that is the new mix. I am going to turn the bass down a bit and take out some of the low end on it... Also going to redo the leads and melodies without the chorus sound on it.

People keep telling me to add vocals to it, but I'm not sure what would work over it... I do spoken word and hip hop style vocals, some decent singing, not much screaming...

Thanks for the comments amra, I thought the guitar tone fit too... I was thinking of doing a tone that has more low end chug to it, but it probably wouldn't sound as tight.
 
It is sounding good, man. The bass in there helps alot.
If I could make some suggestions about the drums -
I think you should play around with the velocity quite a bit in the fills. They sound pretty stiff. It sounds like alot of hard hits. I think fills sound much more realistic with more medium velocity hits. I would keep the velocity consistent on the right and left hits individually with a slight swell here and there and maybe throw in a slightly harder hit in time with the beat, sort of the way you would expect a drummer to accent the beat a little.
Not to nit-pick, just trying to help!
 
the notes are definately more defined with the gain cut. heavy F#%in sound man.
 
If only I still had my eDrums... I am actually also a drummer, but recently sold my acoustic kit, my eDrums were sold long ago... I know what your talking about with the Velocity... I just started doing all the computer based recording back about 5 months ago, so I am still getting used to it... It took me a long time to get everything sounding like this... I just recently got the midi controller and started doing synths too...

I will try to mess around with the Velocity though to see if I can get it to sound more human... DFHS might actually be able to do it automatically because the plugin has humanizing features, or what ever you call it.

Also, I just retracked some of the guitars, the leads, and changed up the bass a bit... Take another listen, I think it sounds better now...
 
If you can find the setting for the amps presence on the pod you might try adjusting it to be less sharp. The gain is much better and I wouldn't say they were overly bright but something about them is still almost too sharp sounding. Just a thought. Definitely sounding better.
 
It is probably the boost at 3Khz... or maybe 7Khz... I'll try to EQ a bit different... I kind of like the sharpness though... I'll do some expirments though... Always up for that.
 
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