In which order would you place these stomp-boxes?

  • Thread starter Thread starter Speeddemon
  • Start date Start date
Speeddemon

Speeddemon

New member
Right now I only have a H&K Tubefactor, a Boss Metalzone MT-2 and a Vox v847 wah. I'd like to add AT LEAST these 4:
-tuner (probably Boss TU-2 or TU-12)
-chorus (boss ch-1 or maybe visual sound H2O)
-delay (ibanez de-7 or maybe visual sound H2O)
-tremolo (probably Fulltone Supa-Trem as soon as I can afford it)

but I might add these too:
-Boss NS-2 Noise reductor
-Carl Martin Compressor
-Electro Harmonix Deluxe Memory man (analog delay)

What would you make of it? Can you describe both the 'at least'-chain, and the 'total' chain?

I was thinking this myself:
Guitar->Tuner->Compressor->Wah->OD/DS->Noise Reductor-Tremolo>Chorus->Delay->AMP. (or trem/chorus/delay in the fx-loop of the amp.)

Whaddayathink, folks?
 
The signal chain you described sounds good. As long as your wah is before your OD/DS (and your compressor comes first, of course), I think you have a lot of leeway with the tremolo/delay/chorus type stuff.
 
Even said:
sell em all and buy an all in one. Zoom GFX-8 has all that and you can program it.
Click to expand...
Dude,
1) I only have the Tubefactor, Vox wah and Metalzone right now.
2) I just got rid of my Boss GT-3. Got tired of endless tweaking , decreased dynamics, slow response and digital sound...

No more multi-fx floorboards for me, when I'm going to buy a $2000 tube amp (Engl Savage Spec. Edt 100W head + Engl 4x12" standard slanted cab.) next year. I'll be buying a Digitech Genesis 3 solely for home-recording (it smokes the POD and the J-Station, I tried them all, I edited them all, I tweaked them all)

Whoopy, what's the difference between putting a compressor before or after an OD/DS?
And the order of delay/tremolo/chorus doesn't really matter?
 
Guitar->Tuner->Compressor->Wah->OD/DS->Noise Reductor-Tremolo>Chorus->Delay->AMP. (or trem/chorus/delay in the fx-loop of the amp.)
Click to expand...

Two things stand out to me:

I've noticed tone problems when I run my Boss tuners in-line with my guitar. I would use a splitter and have some way to mute your amp for silent tuning.

If you put the trem before the delay, the delay is going to screw up the trem if you use them together. This is more a matter of personal pref.

I would definately run all the time-domain effects (chorus,delay) and the trem in the amp's loop.

The reason for running the comp before the dist. and wah is so you won't be compressing the noise.
 
Well, I might just go for the TU-12 Tuner, that won't be on my board. One less pedal for the signal to flow through. But is the Noise Reduction after the OD en compression a good idea? I figured it would remove all unwanted noise from distorting and compressing, and sending this cleaned-up signal to the tremolo, delay and chorus. Any more thoughts?

PS, M Bane, you would recon this as better?:
Amp fx send->Chorus-->Delay-->Tremolo-->Amp fx return
 
Compression before Distortion gives you higher sustain and a smoother overall tone. Compression after gives you more of a standard dynamics control.

Time based effects can be placed anywhere and will give you a big difference depending on where they are. Do you want to delay the signal than distort the delays or do you want to add delay to the orignal distorted signal? They can both be cool and it just depends on what you like.

What does the noise reduction pedal actually do? My guess is that it is probably a noise gate in which case you want to put it at the very end of the chain to keep noisy distortion and chorus pedals from making a lot of noise during breaks.
 
Tex, I heard that sometimes the Noise Reductor can also cut off delay trails, so therefore I would use it BEFORE the delay...

Would you put compression BEFORE or AFTER the wah?
Right now I think
Guitar-->compression-->Wah-->OD/DS-->NS-->Chorus-->Delay-->Tremolo... right?
 
This is how I would run 'em:

Guitar-->compression-->Wah-->OD/DS-->NS-->preamp--> Chorus-->Delay-->Tremolo-->power amp.

Or as an alternate you could run the NS after your preamp. By running the chorus/delay/trem in the amps loop noise shouldn't be a problem unless you've got some really noisey boxes.
 
If you have NS with "key" or "detect" input, you can connect that "key" directly to Guitar output, and place NS after distortion.

This way NS don't affect gain ( never enough gain :) ) to distortion and don't cut initial attack ( "detect" attack of NS is too slow to pass string picking transients ).

This is great for fast palm-muting and breaks, and modulation effects conectted after distortion will produce clean signal without clipped tails.

Guitar--"key"out--compressor---wah---distortion---NS with "key" input---modulation---amp
 
I agree with this config...

Guitar->Tuner->Compressor->Wah->OD/DS->Noise Reductor-Tremolo>Chorus->Delay->AMP. (or trem/chorus/delay in the fx-loop of the amp.)

I also used:

Guitar->Wah->OD/DS/OD (yes, I used 1 before and 1 after DS) ->Compressor ->Chorus->Flanger or Tremolo ->Delay -> AMP

Whatever you do, do not place your delay before the OD/DS...it sounds awful!

Hope this helps...

Peace...

PC
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top