in ur face sound

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Blue Bear Sound said:
It's a "color" mic.... I've used it successfully when I wanted a trashy, muddy, honky, colored sound.

But I would never recommend it to someone (especially a beginner) as a general purpose mic.

Zeke, it's not enough to see something on someone's gear list.... you have to know why they have it and how they use it. Sometimes the reasons a studio has a particular piece are not obvious.

out of curiosity, did you know this about the 2001 before you bought it and felt you needed to add this particular "color", or is there a chance you got a bad mic...and/or have you had/used any other MXL2001's? Realizing there is a couple of questions in there, but I can't believe you'd spend the asking price for the mic just to get a "trashy" sound, which seems to kinda go against your preferences in recording also.
I've got a MXL2001 (actually two) and they both seem pretty identical and are nice $150 mics. I think I've been able to get some good mileage out of them and get some fairly "accurate" results with them. Do I reach for them first..?..nope...but seeing them on Ebay for 50 bucks now, that seems a pretty good deal to me.
 
You need to reduce your average to peak ratio.

in ur face sound
hey... i recorded a band.. and noticed that my recordings aren't in ur face if u get what i mean... they are in the distance.... ppl tell me to turn them up... but after a while they get distorted... any suggestions?



First of all the reason the commercial songs are as loud as they are is because they were mastered by an engineer who knows how to get the song hot "in your face" with out distorting the file. Second; The only thing I could say with out writing a short novel on why commercial CD are the way they are, I'll try to make this as simple as possible.

In order to get the song louder you need to reduce the average to peak ratio. If you don't know what that means it means that you need to reduce the volume difference between the high peaks and the low vallie's of your song file. If you don't know what processor to use in a case like this it's a compressor.
Once you do that then it's just a matter of raising the volume on the in the compressor itself or you can do it after the fact. What ever you path you take it'll still end in the same place.

There are other ways to give the illusion of loudness but like I said it's too much to type out. So try that I'm sure it will work out for you. I for some reason you can seem to figure it out email me or private message me. I'll get you to send me the song and I'll do it for you. It'll take like to seconds if thats all you want done.

let me know,
sonicpaint
:cool:
 
Originally posted by mixmkr out of curiosity, did you know this about the 2001 before you bought it...?
Nope - I knew nothing about it until one of the guys at a local store store said I should "check 'em out, they're really good..." (never dealt with that guy again after that though!) They were cheap so I figured I'd try it and worst case, it would become a "color" mic.... and that's exactly what happened - hated it the first time I used it so I threw it back into the mic locker. Turns out it was "the right mic for the job" a couple of times now, so I can't complain about having it..... and since I know it's characteristic, I can easily use it as a trash mic.


Originally posted by mixmkr I can't believe you'd spend the asking price for the mic just to get a "trashy" sound, which seems to kinda go against your preferences in recording also.
Pardon me, but what the fuck would you know about my recording preferences or my studio budget?


Originally posted by mixmkr I've got a MXL2001 (actually two) and they both seem pretty identical and are nice $150 mics. I think I've been able to get some good mileage out of them and get some fairly "accurate" results with them. Do I reach for them first..?..nope...but seeing them on Ebay for 50 bucks now, that seems a pretty good deal to me.
Well - I'm so happy they work for you....

As far as I'm concerned, they will never be anything more than the mid-heavy, honky-sounding mics that they are....
 
Blue Bear Sound said:
As far as I'm concerned, they will never be anything more than the mid-heavy, honky-sounding mics that they are....

Well, maybe but i don't think i would spend $150 on a mic just to get a trashy sound. and even if you didn't know how good or bad the mic was until you bought it, if it was not what the sales guy said it was, cound'nt you get your money back? I would apply distortion or crunch to a mic before i'd spend $150 on a shitty mic.
 
Blue Bear Sound said:


Pardon me, but what the fuck would you know about my recording preferences or my studio budget?



as far as your studio budget, it seems to reason that since all your gear is pretty much consistantly catalog quality, nothing that expensive really, nor high end top notch, that your budget would be fairly common to most people that also have ADATs and Mackie boards...which would be 'average Joe' income, for the most part. Shit, who knows...you're probably in hock up to your ears and don't have a frigging budget...or even don't know how to budget. All I guess I really know, from you informing the board with your construction figures and the lack of $ to buy your "wittle" baby sony oxford, that your budget is pretty fucking modest in the scope of professional recording facilities. Maybe more than the average around these forums, but big wack... I've had sailboats and cars that cost more than your studio..AND a studio too. But big fucking deal. I am a small player in the recording world....just like you.

as far as your preferences (aside for all the steely dan crap you crave), I guess I REALLY don't know. You've never posted anything YOU have ever done from start to finish. You didn't even post anything off your CD either. Nor do you have any studio examples. Infact, I seem to recall you saying you won't post anything your studio has done for use as a studio resume. Seems you've really have been 'gun-shy' in that context. Especially since that seems to be the opposite of the norm for most places that are proud of their work.. Hey...but I can understand...if you don't get any work...nothing to show. So I guess you don't have any preferences. You're just a bland kinda dickface with opinions that come out as ugly assults.

Blue bear...you're a complete asshole. If you climbed down off your pedistal and joined the rest of the human race, you might actually become a real person. But for now, I suppose you'll continue with your extremely abrasive manners and think you're the solution for all these people that haven't picked up a basic recording handbook.

I assume your next post if you even reply will just be: :rolleyes:
 
mixmkr said:
I assume your next post if you even reply will just be: :rolleyes:
Coming from a holier-than-thou, self-appointed Miss Manners, your nonsense means very little to me...

I have nothing to prove to you, or to anyone else for that matter.... my studio is what it is, and I am what I am.... and if you don't like my posts, by all means, DON'T FUCKIN' READ 'EM!

Here -- one last one for ya.... and please, go fuck yourself - a couple of times.... :rolleyes:

I should have put you there a long time ago - because I've found you increasingly annoying for some time now - but anyways, welcome to my ignore list, Emily Post.
 
Blue Bear Sound said:
and if you don't like my posts, by all means, DON'T FUCKIN' READ 'EM!



I generally don't. I haven't gained any new information from you really. The topics YOU generate, I find no interest. But when you come flying into someone else's post and spew your garbage like some know-it-all-asshole, sometimes you just scroll right down into it and don't have the "option" of avoiding your diarrhea. This thread happens to be a perfect example.

And I wasn't looking for any "proof" from you either. Your credibilty is about as low as it can get with me. So keep me on your "ignore list."

Call me Emily Post, call me Robin Hood, or whatever you want to do.. ..I'll just remember you as a pompous, overeactive, little kid, that is probably playing with his daddy's money so he can pretend to be a professional in the recording field.

Adios blue bear... I hope we don't have to have another conversation again.
 
I Love freedom of speech. But why oh why must we argue over pointless opinions, etc..


Hmmm, Perhaps it's because people harbor latent issues from childhood and carry them into BBS's designed to educate and inform.

Anyway, I have 3-2001's

Never ever will they get used on vocals, very nasty for that, but I love them on overheads. Come to think of it, it's the only place I use them.

LOL

So what things do you use yours for Blue Bear?

BTW if I have not jocked you before, I will now, I love your studio

Bryan G

Wehn I finally finish mine, I will have pics up on my website.

Wk 3 and a resonator to finish). Getting supplies is my only slowdown

And lastly, Mixmkr this is not a dig, but an honest inquiry (saving me the effort to dig) what do you utilize? Tools, etc....
 
why cant we be freinds... why can't we be freinds... why can't we be freinds... why can't weeee bee freinddss?
 
giles117 said:

And lastly, Mixmkr this is not a dig, but an honest inquiry (saving me the effort to dig) what do you utilize? Tools, etc....

I have a pile of guitars, a NEW Deering banjo, a bunch of mics, some really decent, the other half, just old band stuff, some Roland synths, gtr synths, a nice variety of amps, stomp boxes, a pile of cheap cables and a computer with a Layla card. Oh...and monitor speakers from the days of old... Jbl 4311's, some old time URIE's and the ubiqitous Auratones with some old Crowns pushing them.
I guess that was your question;)

I used to have a better setup more condusive to outside customers about 25 years ago, but as you can see, the equipment is pretty dated now by todays standards. I like the computer nowadays.

here are some tunes...
http://www.nowhereradio.com/artists/9/1322/album43.shtml
 

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i see new guys posting like pro's often in this group, humm, starts flames often also...

but then again, we all know how fickle us tech musicans can be at times, peace...

he either has recorded a reflect or used a crap mic or has/did an eq glinch (verb) most likely...

i'm no tech but i know what wet and dry mean...

mic placement and no effects (dry/flat eq) till mix usualy give, right in your face audio results... imho, not being a tech thought...

peace again all... play nice, your all pro's in my eye's :)
 
giles117 said:
So what things do you use yours for Blue Bear?

BTW if I have not jocked you before, I will now, I love your studio

Bryan G

Wehn I finally finish mine, I will have pics up on my website.

Wk 3 and a resonator to finish). Getting supplies is my only slowdown
Thanks! I'm very happy with the way the studio turned out...!

I used the 2001 on several occasions -- one for a dark, mid-heavy, sound on a Guild Starfire-IV thru a Fender Twin-- it provided just the right honk the track needed... and I beleive I used it as a room mic a couple of times, as an intentional color -- I don't beleive they ever made it in the final mixes though...

Looking forward to seeing your studio, Bryan....!
 
Giles, nice job man!!

giles117 said:
Nice Mixes.

http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/591/kristal.html

Here are some samples of what I do.

These mixes were before I built my new Control Room

Bryan Giles

I'm a Christian and all though I'm not much for Gospel. The song was very well recorded and the sound was great. Just thought I would let you know dude you got some talent there! Is that your work? Very nice job. I'm quite impressed Giles.
:D
 
yes...recorded very well... a little "smaltzy" lyrics wise for THIS Christian, but I liked it very much.
 
Hey, nice studio mixmrk! I like your set up. I hope i can make myne look like something in a few months. Heard you had a banjo, you play Bluegrass?
 
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