In between recording and live yet both at the same time!!!!!

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ido1957 said:
TV Compression is pretty heavy from what I understand. Most TV shows I see are mostly vocals. Glad to hear that the rest of the instruments got a wee bit in there. And the clapping sounds well....outstanding! :D:D:D:D
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Yeah I was wondering why the producer wanted me to set up audience microphones. Guess they don't have a clap track! :D
They had at that TV station a 5 band compressor so I asked what that compressors bands where set at and tried to work with and around it, It seemed to work.

Thank you Ido.
 
Tell the band it was a good song, I enjoyed it. For a 15 minute setup this sounded good. Did the 15 minutes include micing everything? I think the compression did horrible things to the snare. I'm guessing it sounded a lot different/better in the room. Knowing the conditions you were working under, it's kind of hard to offer up any suggestions. If that's the typical TV work environment, then no thank you!!! :D I wouldn't last a second. Just getting the gig speaks volumes about your capabilities.

Do you have any clips of these guys from your studio? Or is it all live work?

peace,
 
Chili said:
Tell the band it was a good song, I enjoyed it. For a 15 minute setup this sounded good. Did the 15 minutes include micing everything? I think the compression did horrible things to the snare. I'm guessing it sounded a lot different/better in the room. Knowing the conditions you were working under, it's kind of hard to offer up any suggestions. If that's the typical TV work environment, then no thank you!!! :D I wouldn't last a second. Just getting the gig speaks volumes about your capabilities.

Do you have any clips of these guys from your studio? Or is it all live work?

peace,
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No 15 minutes to get everything dialed in for the studio audience live feed and more importantly what goes out on the airwaves.

Yeah the pace is at a full tilt boogie with no looking back! Sure keeps me on my toes.
 
To my ears and eyes, you did a great job considering the fact that you didn't know the room and the producer only provided you a 15 minute window to do your thing.

The only thing that annoyed me within the video was Scott Haney. Haney is an idoit!

The lead male vocalist may have needed an EQ boost to bring out the best of his voice, but I digress....

You did an awesome job under pressure.
 
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moresound said:
Hey Thanks Laz.
Yeah do a search here to find more.
The one thing to remember is that after this (what you hear) after me, the TV station heavily hits it with a muti band compressor as a mastering engineer would but for the TV airwaves. Voice and picture are the most important thing to them.
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I was gonna say something like that. It sounds like the TV station hammered the hell out of it. Broadcast TV sucks for live music. You could dial in the best sound ever and the TV station will murder it. I've had various bands get on TV a few times. It sucks big hairy ones.

I guess you did good. Better than anything I could do. I hate the song, so it's hard to listen objectively.
 
Not bad at all! I'd say the lead vox needs a bit more EQing...sounded a little strange to me (but I think part of it was just his voice lol, and he was eating the mic sometimes). Back-up vox were pretty loud too. Also, the bass kinda bothered me at first...I felt like the bass is straight-up devouring the kick. Everything else was good!

I figured it'd be heavily compressed by the station...that always sucks. But man, for only having 15 minutes, this is good!
 
60's guy said:
To my ears and eyes, you did a great job considering the fact that you didn't know the room and the producer only provided you a 15 minute window to do your thing.

The only thing that annoyed me within the video was Scott Haney. Haney is an idoit!

The lead male vocalist may have needed an EQ boost to bring out the best of his voice, but I digress....

You did an awesome job under pressure.
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HA! That's right your from that area 60's.
Yeah Scot can be how shall I put it flamboyant at times and if you have ever seen him off camera here and there you know what I mean.
Here is a small quote from his bio ..... Scot spends his free time with his Partner, Paul, and his cats -- Sarah, Dash and Jake.

Thanks so much for your thumbs up.
 
Full tilt boogie !

It takes me longer than 15 minutes just to set up the drums and mic it ! So under those circumstances and also considering the TV lot would major on the vocals, I think you did a grand job.
guitaristic said:
Back-up vox were pretty loud too. Also, the bass kinda bothered me at first...I felt like the bass is straight-up devouring the kick.
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I couldn't hear the kick drum and the harmony singer was alot louder than the guy on lead vocals but you could hear him clearly anyway. Apart from the bass drum, you could hear everything nice and clearly, if a little bassy, and as such, it would come over well on TV if you were only seeing it the once. Every week, the Sky arts channel or BBc 4 does music programmes here and quite often they're live gigs or things from yesteryear (The Who or Hendrix at the Isle of Wight, that kind of thing) so I've gotten used to hearing live music out of TV/computer speakers. Sounds OK, though I wasn't ecstatic about the actual song.
You know, when I see bands on TV, I often concentrate far more on the musicians and their hands/fingers/feet (ie, how they play) than the song in question !
 
Greg_L said:
I was gonna say something like that. It sounds like the TV station hammered the hell out of it. Broadcast TV sucks for live music. You could dial in the best sound ever and the TV station will murder it. I've had various bands get on TV a few times. It sucks big hairy ones.

I guess you did good. Better than anything I could do. I hate the song, so it's hard to listen objectively.
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Thanks Greg

I tried and tried but they just wouldn't start the song off with ... "Hey Ho Let's go" :D
 
Nice work moresound. They sound good - even with the station's multiband processing warping it. I've played on TV a half dozen times and the broadcast processing absolutely hammered the audio every time. Frustrating. Do you have anything you've recorded by the band you can post that doesn't have TV processing or YTube involved?
 
I enjoyed it all. You did a fantastic job and the band is very tallented. I thought it was a perfect match.
 
guitaristic said:
Not bad at all! I'd say the lead vox needs a bit more EQing...sounded a little strange to me (but I think part of it was just his voice lol, and he was eating the mic sometimes). Back-up vox were pretty loud too. Also, the bass kinda bothered me at first...I felt like the bass is straight-up devouring the kick. Everything else was good!

I figured it'd be heavily compressed by the station...that always sucks. But man, for only having 15 minutes, this is good!
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Yeah on something other than computer speakers you can pick out the kick an bass but it's that dang station compressor. They do that for most people they figure are only listening to the TV with the little speakers that are on the TV set.

Thanks for the thumbs up Guitaristic.
 
grimtraveller said:
It takes me longer than 15 minutes just to set up the drums and mic it ! So under those circumstances and also considering the TV lot would major on the vocals, I think you did a grand job.
I couldn't hear the kick drum and the harmony singer was alot louder than the guy on lead vocals but you could hear him clearly anyway. Apart from the bass drum, you could hear everything nice and clearly, if a little bassy, and as such, it would come over well on TV if you were only seeing it the once. Every week, the Sky arts channel or BBc 4 does music programmes here and quite often they're live gigs or things from yesteryear (The Who or Hendrix at the Isle of Wight, that kind of thing) so I've gotten used to hearing live music out of TV/computer speakers. Sounds OK, though I wasn't ecstatic about the actual song.
You know, when I see bands on TV, I often concentrate far more on the musicians and their hands/fingers/feet (ie, how they play) than the song in question !
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Thanks Grim I did get to make all of my mic runs prior to the show which helped quite a bit.
Yeah TV sound is what it is .... could have been worst! I could have been just hitting play back and they lip synced to the song. :D
 
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