Improved my bass recordings :(

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Impossible to say without some idea of the problem with your sound now....

What don't you like about what you're hearing?
 
My problem is , that my bass sounds really thin
and I need in fat and large
 
rockem said:
bass -> DMP3 -> Behringer mdx2200 -> Mia card

This setup should give you a usable bass sound.

my signal chain:
crappy bass->VC3Q(boost low EQ)->Audiophile2496

after that I would apply some lowcut around 50Hz and get a nice solid bass sound.

If you bass sounds thin, I guess some of the reasons could be:
1. Not recorded hot enough
2. Playing skills
 
rockem said:
My problem is , that my bass sounds really thin
and I need in fat and large

That's usually an issue that involves four main things:

1) The bass itself, the quality of the model (American-made Precision, Jazz Bass, Musicman, etc. all = good. Ibanez, Epiphone, Court, JC Penny = bad), and the pickups. You're Yammy, by the way, is pretty respectable as a beginner's bass. It's nice to learn on, but I'm not sure I'd want it around for any serious recording sessions.

2) The type and condition of strings you're using (fresh=good. old, warn=bad. Light top, heavy bottom are nice if you want fat).

3) Maintanance; how long has it been since you've had it set up? If you play it regularly, then you should have it done at least twice a year.

4) Technique. You'll get a fatter tone using your fingers instead of a pick (sorry if I'm stating the obvious). I've also noticed that where you pick in relation to the pickups has a lot to do with the heft of the tone; picking directly over the pickups=bad, and is a good recipe for "thin." If you learn to play closer towards the bottom pickup, it will sound fatter. Those are just some examples of the role your technique plays.

Good news is that, overall, you're talking about an instrument that isn't very high-maintanace, here. :D A lot of people get perfectly good, fat, round tone just plugging them directly in to the mixer, God love 'em. I think us bass players just get complacent because we have it so easy (we don't have to lug around drum kits or heavy guitar amps, we only have 4 strings to worry about instead of 6, etc.).


Again, though, it starts with the bass itself and the player. If you can get a fat tone out of your bass when you practice, then you should be able to get a similar fat tone to tape or disk without much difficulty. The trick, obviously, is to get that fat tone to begin with. -- Funny how that seems to be a recurring theme with recording in general and not just with the bass.

If you are indeed getting just that, and it's merely a case of that mamoth, girthy tone getting lost in a busy mix, then you probably just need to brush up on your mixing skills.
 
chessrock said:

3) Maintanance; how long has it been since you've had it set up? If you play it regularly, then you should have it done at least twice a year.
Often wondered what someone who does it for a living can do more on maintenance than I can myself.
I'm not afraid to turn some screws so recently when I changed the strings I also readjusted the saddles and trussrod. Went pretty well, no more fret buzz and lower action.

(Still) not very happy with the DI'ed sound of the bass though
(Ibanez ATK-305, active 5string). In the 6 years that I've owned this bass, it hasn't had a pro maintenance job. Is that it? Or is it that since I've taken a shot at home recording that I'm noticing that sonically it just doesn't really cut it when it comes to recording? Maybe getting some proper electronics for it will do wonders.. Something like a Stingray replacement kit.

I don't really know. Amp modelers now got me somewhere in the ballpark though. I'll stick with that until I can afford another bass.

Used to use my Joemeek VC6Q as DI. Later tried the pres on my Mindprint DI-Port but that wasn't an improvement at all for this task and now I'm experimenting with a Digitech Genesis 3 amp modeler. No dedicated amp models but the Black Face model works pretty well. The Meek compressor is still in the chain, so is the DI-port for its converters. -> Delta 410.
 
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