I'm not exactly a 'newbie' but...

[Editor]

Re: Re: I'm not exactly a 'newbie' but...

Editor,

Its possible to start recording now if you already have Cubase, and a way to bring your guitar direct into your 1/8" sound card.

Yup. I've figured out the ins and outs, and the plugins so far. As I mentioned before, I've used Vegas Audio to do a few multi-track sessions involving drum and synth sequences that I put together in Fruity Loops, exported as WAV files and then imported into Vegas. After that, I run a clean guitar track and add the plugins.

This brings me to my original question: is it possible, using software such as Cubase or something like it, to record my guitar input, add effects to that guitar track and hear the result in real time? If Cubase isn't the answer (& I hope it isn't 'cause its expensive ;-), is there another program that will do this?

And then, again, after you get your tracks laid down the possibilities are endless. Which you have already somewhat experienced inside of FL.

Yeah!

After that the peoples on these sites, it appears, are more than eager to help after you stub your foot and bonk your head. THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

Yup, noticed that too

Thanks for the info Dana

 

[kgirl72]

Hi editor,

I used all the stuff I already had for awhile. It was good enough for me until I just got greedy. I'm glad I did, but I was having fun playing with it before, too. I just didn't have a clue back then, now I only have a couple.

I have never tried this software, but you could look into this one

There is a forum on this BBS for ntrack, and there are other forums around. There is a free evaluation version. I'd want the registered version which would cost around $70, I think, I just went to their site for the first time today and only quickly looked for the price. I know that is much cheaper than Cubase, or Sonar or any of the others that a lot of people here use.

You can find tons of free effects on the net too. They may not be the greatest, but some of them have quite a few fans. Do a search for those on this bbs. There should be a lot of links to places.

As for the guitar, well I don't know. I don't know if you can plug your amp in or if you need a box between the computer and amp. I have never played a guitar in my life, nor have I recorded one. My guess is maybe a mixer is needed in between, or a DI box or something, but I am not 100% on that, or anywhere near it.

Have fun. I had some. And I enjoy sinking money into my hobby now, but I need to quit for awhile. My setup is pretty weak still, but I am glad I have what I do. So, do it how you want, if it doesn't need to be that good.

I am wondering about your soundcard, however. I'm not sure if you can get very good latency with it, so if you're going to be using vsti's or dxi's, which are plug-in instruments, things may be delayed more than you like, and listening to effects in real time is probably going to suffer. Anyone got a soundblaster that knows about the latency? The software I linked you to will do realtime effects, I just don't know how good the soundblaster is in terms of latency. You should be able to find this out by doing a search on the board too. I'm sure it has to have been discussed a couple of times at least.

Okay, good luck. I've shared all I can think of off the top of my head.
-Kirstin

 

[kgirl72]

Actually, since the soundblaster can only record in 16 bit I think, your version (which unlocks a couple of pretty useful features) would be $45.

Look into wdm drivers for the soundblaster you have, or whatever they have out that is the most current. I would buy something better when you can. But, use what you got, when possible, I hear you.

Still don't know about the guitar. Sorry!

-Kirstin

 

[mishappen]

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It seems that we have missed your original q. Sorry.

Yes Cubase will allow you to to record your guitar input, add effects to that guitar track and hear the result in real time? The speed of your comuter is going to dictate how many tracks and effects you add however.

I believe the program that Kirstin is refering you too will also allow the real time thingy. not sure tho.

There is also Sonar which is what I use. (and awesome btw) imo

dana

 

[Editor]

Thanks for the responses kgirl and mis Yes mishappen, I thought it was the way I was typing or something (missed my original question)

Say k, thanks for the link to ntracks. I came across that program name a while back but it was referred to as a beginner's level deal. It has matured nicely and maybe worth a second look.

Something else I happened across was the KX drivers site. Don't know much about it yet but they work specifically with SB Live! cards and promise 2.5 ms of latency. This is good (I think

Anybody familiar with that project?

 

[kgirl72]

that is exactly the drivers you should be getting for your card, I think, unless there is something newer out there. But, i don't think there is.

Well, the ntrack may not be the most fab of the software out there, but the people using it seem fairly happy these days. And, you can always upgrade later, when you've paid a mortgage payment ahead or two. Definitely will do real time, and you are good to go. Are you going to do any singing?

2.5 milliseconds is great. You won't really notice it. Now, whether or not you can USE the card without lots of glitches at 2.5 is another story, but even if you can stand using it at maybe 10 milliseconds, you'd be way better than with all pops and clicks that will bleed into your recording session.

sonar IS awesome, but the ntrack is looking pretty DAMN good for the price, and Sonar Producer Edition 3 now is what? $750--sure, worth it, but it can wait. And, it's going to be the soundcard that makes so much more of the difference, not as much the software, though, there are differences there too, sound wise, I've heard.

That ntrack does the stuff I'd be looking for in a cheap program. but, like I said, I'd want to pay the extra. I don't think you can even export a wav file until you register. Hell, it has rewire support, does real time, takes dxi's and vsti's. This means, by the way, you can plug Fruity loops right into your program and play your drums from there while recording.

If the amp is basically all you need to plug in, unless you're going to be mic-ing the amp. I'm not sure I understand how that part is happening...then just get an adapter for your cable from 1/4" to 1/8" and you are good to go. No?

-Kirstin

 

[kgirl72]

One day you'll need to upgrad the computer I'm afraid, although, you may be able to do for awhile with just some more ram. What you have now seems a bit low considering that you're using XP, but maybe not. My last computer was runing 98 on 128 mb of ram, and I really didn't have any problems. I'm not using as many tracks prolly either, or processing in general, but I'm starting to now. So, I'm all upgraded and shiny and new.