If YOU were to EQ this...

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My EQing Techniques are slim to nill. If you were to be given this song...you may recall if from the "Emergency Wedding Song", but forget about it being played by a DJ in a hall...what would you do with it?



I also seem to always have this sound that seems kind of "in your face" and not nearly as smooth as a lot of other music I hear (which can be a little weird for acoustic songs). Could that have something to do with the fact that I mic REALLY close? Is that an EQ issue? Am I just nuts?

Anyway, thanks! Anything will help?
 
Sounds like an eq problem. Too much hyped highs, and nothing covering the low ends....

Micing close only adds lower end (due to proximity effect) so that can't be the problem.

It could be the mic itself (I only hear miced instruments and vocals). What kind of mic do you use?
 
I used a Studio Projects C1 on the vocals and a Studio Projects C1 and B1 for stereo mic'ing the main rhythm guitar...the other little lead was done with the C1 (alone) again.

By the way, I've never adjust EQ. I don't have a mixing board or anything, but I can do it through my recorder (which is a Roland VS 880EX), but usually don't because I just f*ck it up.

Does it sound that way to you? maybe too much high end? ...like it's got an extra edge to it? Maybe it's just my shitty speakers and or headphones...
 
Yeah - the high-end sounds pretty hyped.... sure sounds like you've boosted it, either during tracking or mixing....
 
yeah...that's what I thought!:confused:

I didn't touch a freakin' nob! Trust me.

Maybe I got something funky in my recording chain? Let's see here...This is usually how I record...

I'll plug either the B1 or C1 into my audio buddy pre-amp. From there I'll go into my Behringer DSP9024 Ultra-Dyne Pro, which is a compressor, and from there I go straight into my Roland VS 880EX. I don't think It's my compressor, but I could be wrong...the audio buddy? my Roland?

What's going on here? Any ideas?:(
 
Hey, Tom's (SLuiCe) vocal sound sometimes suffers from it too (albeit not as much)....didn't he use a Studio projects mic?

It could be the mic in combination with your style of mixing.
 
The Behringer is not only a compressor, but an exciter as well.... seems like you've got the exciter portion enabled in your recording chain...

Behringer DSP9024 Ultra-Dyne Pro
6 bands of 24-bit dual-processing power. This 6-band compressor/gate dynamo puts digital mastering perfection and amazing sound at your fingertips. Friendly interface makes it easy to edit parameters per band or globally and instantly save them.

6 multiband algorithms eliminate all undesirable effects. A multi-band exciter generates sparkling harmonics, adds silk to vocals and extra kick to a bass drum.

yadda yadda...



Question is - why would you ALWAYS route through the Behringer??? Minimal signal chain is best practice.
 
Well, if it's a mic with lots of high end in itself you don't need to add much. Clean might be just fine...cutting some of those highs perhaps even better.

Tell me, do you add much of highs?

This is a mp3 mixing clinic, you're supposed to suck at mixing. LOL :) Otherwise you wouldn't have anything to learn...
 
Just noticed your signal chain.

Yep, turn off the Behringer (it might excite a little too much, or compress highs you don't wanna compress) and try again. :)

6 multiband algorithms eliminate all undesirable effects
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All undesirable effects? Wow, that's quite a promise... :)
 
HOLY CRAP!:eek:

You guys might be on to something! I turned on that exciter a while ago, and I think if you don't turn it off, it just kind of always stays on in the background.

F*CK! now that I think about it, that damn thing's probably been on for months! That would definately explain it!

Thanks guys! I'll try that!:D

ps. when WOULD i use that exciter?
 
wow! :) I wonder if the 6 multiband algorithms to eliminate all undesirable effects can eliminate bad notes or crappy songs. I'm sure glad I've got that! It's worked wonders so far!
 
Pedullist said:
All undesirable effects? Wow, that's quite a promise... :)
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Too bad it couldn't eliminate the undesirable effect of its own exciter being left on!!!! :p

;) :D
 
I still recommend minimal recording signal chain.... only put that Behringer in there when you specifically need it....
 
ps. when WOULD i use that exciter?
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When you downgrade to a shitty mic with no high ends, Robertt8. Or when you have found an old recording and want to make it sound less muffled. If you're looking for more excitement in your life though, you better leave your little studio to get out and meet women (because women are very cool...and exciting)...

(hmmmm, I wonder what's in Tom's signal chain)
 
Blue Bear Sound said:
Too bad it couldn't eliminate the undesirable effect of its own exciter being left on!!!! :p

;) :D
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LOL, that's what I thought! :)
 
Blue Bear Sound said:
Too bad it couldn't eliminate the undesirable effect of its own exciter being left on!!!! :p

;) :D
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I seem to have lost half my message...

Yeah! No kidding!:rolleyes:

Now for damage control...it there anyway to undo what I've done? EQing back down the highs? or am I just much better off re-recording, which is always a pain in the ass
 
I'd go for pain in the ass. The best pain there is...


:rolleyes:


LOL :D
 
You could try some high-freq shelving... but I think you'll still have the harshness... best way is to re-record, but I suppose it depends on how serious your project is that will determine whether a rescue op is "good enough" or you need to re-cut...!
 
10-4 good buddies!

I'm more worried about the other tunes that I recorded with this damn exciter on. This one was more of a half finished tune that'll probably be fine for my drunk relatives at a wedding.
 
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