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dachay2tnr said:
jagular - I posted this "one more time" hoping to get all thumbs up before I sent you a "final mix." Since, as you can see, some of the thumbs were still pointing in other directions, I may tweak it a one more this weekend. I am obviously well past the point of diminishing returns, but that never stopped me before. :D

LMAO (in a good way)

You go girl ;) :D

It's already 10 times better than I could have mixed it so I'll be happy with whatever you send me :)
 
MISTERQCUE said:
No wonder your butt is up for an award!!!!
Your vocs are primo! Awesome harmonization! Acoustic up front
and precise but not overpowering. Kit seemed a weeeee bit back in the mix but ample! Mellow, monster-piece recording and perf!

5 1/2 STARS home-boy!!!
Thanks Q. But does it have SOUL!!!! :cool:

damn, I would have long sprayed it with cool whip and called it a damned good pie!
That's pretty funny, Toki. :D
 
Man you guy's sound awesome. Jag, that was a great performance man! used to play with a band that did some RH, they/we couldn't touch this though. This sounds fantastic..
 
dachay2tnr said:
Ah, fuck!! :mad: I don't know what it is, but I've already retracked them once. They're staying this time.
That made me laugh so hard that my wife woke up and told me she wanted a divorce. Well, actually, those two events weren't really related; she always says that when she wakes up in the middle of the night.

About the tuning...it's so freaking slight as to be insignificant...seriously. I listened to this with the hyper-critical "1/12th of a semitone out" ears. The guitar(s) were definitely in tune, b/c the last notes are perfect...sounds to me like either an intonation problem with the guit, or you just over-fretted in a SUPER-INSIGNIFICANT kinda' way.

I listened to "Wish You Were Here" (Pink Floyd) with the hyper-critical ears the other night. I've probably heard that song 500 times in my life...and for the first time ever, I noticed that he overfretted 2 notes on the intro, and they're sharp.

Didn't seem to prevent them from selling about 12 Kazillion copies.

Thanks for the chuckle. :D
 
yeah, that low A in the guitar solo still sounds outta whack to me. and i don't know why. not sure if it's sharp or flat or what, but it's bugging me. maybe my ears are out of tune?

the rest of the song is great. i know you probably hate me by now cause i busted your chops on that last round too but can you maybe just take out the guitar harmony and see what it sounds like with just the high part, cause that sounds in tune to me?

please ignore me altogether if it's too late to do anything about it.

i like the rest of the song very much. there's less reverb on this one isn't there? it sounds better that way to me.
 
David - thanks for the very kind words. Since you are familiar with Restless Heart, it means alot.

Chris, Eric, Jamal and Scott - OK here's the deal on the guitar solo. The harmony solo's were retracked using the same guitar as the original version of the song that I had posted. Inbetween the two versions, the guitar had been restrung and, or course, retuned. Also, the string gauge was changed with the new strings as well. Both of the solo's in this latest version were tracked with the same guitar. They were done one right after the other, within a few minutes of each other. So either the guitar's got intonation problems (a possibility) or I don't know what.

However, I plan to check the two parts out using Autotune's graphical mode. I've already looked at one of the guitar phrases based on Chris' original comments, and it was right on the money. However, I will check both parts in their entirety and I will let you know the results.

In all honesty, I don't hear it (or if I do, it doesn't bother me) - but then I won't claim to have the best ears for pitch.

Eric, to my mind, the harmony notes are essential to the part. I wouldn't consider eliminating a part. However, there is a possibility of maybe lowering the volume on one part to make it less dominant.

Of course, I guess I could always use Autotune to actually "correct" the part, but I really don't want to do that. Let's see what I find first. I'll save that as a last resort.

And I don't hate any of you for this (well maybe a little :) ). Just kidding. I don't think for a minute that you wouldn't tell me this if you didn't hear it, and ultimately that is the purpose of these clinic posts. So I do appreciate the honesty. It's just very frustrating, as I'm sure you can imagine.

As I said earlier, "Ah, fuck." :D
 
Here's the update. I checked the solo guitar which carries the low harmony part using autotune. The only thing I could see is the A# note on the G string was consistently a tad sharp (and I mean, just a tad - a couple of cents). If that's what you're all hearing, more power to you. You got good ears.

I suspect this is the natural intonation of the guitar, since other notes on the same string were pretty much dead on.

Anyways, I'm leaving it as is. After all, this is rock and roll we're talking about. We dun' need no steenkin' exact intonation. :D
 
Oh! It's a Bb on the bottom! So you're going for a maj 7th there! Then I'm sorry dude. Very adventurous harmony. By the way the mix sounds pretty damn good on my monitors if I didn't mention it earlier.....cause I kept tripping over your maj7th.

Peace.
 
Outstanding, sir! One hell of a voice. Loves those toms. I almost think the acoustic guitars are a dB or two too loud, but I can't be trusted.

Vocals harmonies are performed, tracked, and mixed wonderfully.

Great job all around!
 
dachay2tnr said:
I've already looked at one of the guitar phrases based on Chris' original comments, and it was right on the money.
A little warning about that. If Autotune's getting more than one dominant note at a time, it won't show any variance. The only parts I heard that sounded funky were when at least 2 strings were doubled, so Autotune's not gonna' help you...it'll just show that the phrase is right up the middle. And trust me, I KNOW A LITTLE SOMETHING ABOUT AUTOTUNE...LOL.

Now, here's the bigger issue. You went through the trouble of bringing up the session, opening one of the solo guitar tracks, pulling that up in autotune, seeing that it was sharp (and it was sharp, right? right? 2 cents sharp?), and you didn't hit the "ok" button to fix it? lol. Now THAT'S dedication to the process...

I have this thing about Autotune...I'm kinda' like the clinic's whipping boy for Antares, but I don't care. I think it's a wonderful invention. If you're gonna' shell out $300 for it, USE IT! lmao.

I am soooo sorry I mentioned that guitar thing :D
 
...All hail Dachay !!! Nice vox Jagular !! Way to go girls... :D :D :D Sooo cuuuuteeee... :D
 
chrisharris said:
A little warning about that. If Autotune's getting more than one dominant note at a time, it won't show any variance. The only parts I heard that sounded funky were when at least 2 strings were doubled, so Autotune's not gonna' help you
Chris. There are no strings doubled. Two separate guitar parts, each playing single notes. It was pretty easy to check using autotune. (Although I still didn't bother to check the higher harmony part. :) )

As for autotune, I got beaten into submission about it on the cover of In My Room that we did. And I still say that although autotune was used on a couple of parts, what people were reacting to was the chrous/flange effect I used on the vocals. Anyway, that experience has driven me to use it only as a last resort. (Also, I've never used it on a guitar part before, so I was ascared. :eek: )

Oh and btw, Chris, it was more like 5 cents rather than 2.

Sluice - thanks for the very nice compliments. FYI, the lead vocal was sung by Jagular, another of homerec's homeboys. The song is a cover, so I don't take any offense to your comments about the lyrics. :)

Eric - adventurous harmony or not, it still has to sound right, no? I'm still at a loss about the whole thing. However, I'm taking Toki's advice and I'm spraying it with Cool Whip and calling it a Pie. I do appreciate your comments though. I don't know what it is, 18 people can tell you it's great, but you always listen to the guy who says it sucks. Probably because deep down, you figure he's the one who's right. :D :D :D

Jag - I'll get you out a copy this week.
 
dachay2tnr said:
As for autotune, I got beaten into submission about it on the cover of In My Room that we did. And I still say that although autotune was used on a couple of parts, what people were reacting to was the chrous/flange effect I used on the vocals.
Those vocals in In My Room were great, btw. Apparently, the secret to using Autotune transparently is to never be honest about it...lol. Because once I got it and blurted it out, all of a sudden, people started hearing it EVERYWHERE...LOL...even when I didn't have it on my computer for awhile, by God, people heard it. Now THAT'S one powerful effect. LOL.

I too use a lot of phasing on my backups (chorus, flange) and the tone is similar, I guess. I just don't understand the controversy. I like using it FOR that effect...sounds like a synthysizer...it's cool. :D Now, if you use a talk box, nobody's gonna' think twice about it...but if you dare use Antares, look out. My suggestion is to hit the "tune" button, then just lie about it...LOL. OR...

you could hit the other button that I've installed.
 

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James - we must have posted simultaneously. Thanks for dropping by and listening.

Chris - gotta get me one of them buttons. Is it in the Muscian's Friend catalog? :)
 
Wow, nice.

Great use of verb. Good crisp recording.

The big "boom" drum hits strained my cheap headphones a bit but sounded cool.
 
Man, that harmony is great! I gotta check out more of those Dachay tunes. I like the way you increased the reverb at the end.
Very nice recording.
 
I have only only one complaint....it's too damn perfect.

Good cover.
 
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