If this sounds ignorant, tell me.

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Hey Geoff...
It's spelled "You're," not "Your"... who's the moron now? Hehe.. j/k

Isaiah
 
wow!

I didn't know getting free money from the government would help me make the best demo in the world...where the heck do I sign up!!!! Woooooooweeeeeeee!!!
 
Accountants get up everyday, go to work and get paid at the end of the week. Lawyers get up everyday, go to work and receive a paycheck at the end of the week. Bus drivers get up everyday, go to work and recieve a paycheck at the end of the week. There is no reason why professional musicians should not work under similar conditions. Whether its under a capitalist system (which currently excludes 99% of the musician part of the labor force from making a living wage) or a govt subsidized system which may at least address a small part of the grossly inequitable status quo. Just bec youre used to hovering over a deep fryer doesnt mean thats ideal. Ideally you would have the 9 hours a day other professionals get to develop their products and skills. Its as if royston had the nerve to imagine something better.
 
Arrogance

Hi Royston, from Indy eh?? I'll be over there in a bit more than a week for Indy 500 doings.
As I have pissed many people off here before, I'm not afraid to say what I think, just like everybody else here. To guys who called Royston stupid....give the kid a break, have you never asked a question like that before?? Oh, I'm sure you guys are all perfect, because you tell everbody how perfect you are in every post. What continues to confuse me is how many of you so called "Pro's" hang out here in a Home Recording site. I guess you can't run with the BigDogs, so you come here to be big fish in a little pond. Instead of constantly telling us how you hate Mackies, or what $3000 mics you own, or how many big stars you have worked with, you might just offer some help to the youngsters sometimes. How do your talents apply to the Home Reccer who is obviously trying to do his best on a very limited budget? Or would you rather just snob your way through every post, like alot of you do? You are the ones who ruin sites like this, because now people are afraid to ask that "stupid" question and maybe actually learning something...because you ridicule anybody who you don't feel is on the same "level" as you.
So Royston, keep at it, and maybe someday when you make it big, remember to be helpful to those less fortunate than you, or you might turn out to be like one of the arrogant assholes who frequent this forum. And feel free to tell me to fuck off guys, you have the right, and I do too! But Royston, if I can be of help to you, let me know. You be surprised at what you can do with very little equipment at home. I do agree with sjoko on one issue, EDUCATION. Learn absolutely everything you can about recording. Nitey Nite :-) bOb
 
The reason why some of us "so called pro's hang out in a home recording site" is that some of us so called pro's don't mind helping some not so called pro's
On top of that, as a so called pro, you don't know my name, you don't know who I am, you don't know what I've done or what I'm doing, or whom I work with, unless I think it relevant to say so.
Still think I'd do it to be a big fish in a small pond? Or, just perhaps, if that was the case wouldn't I use my real name?
 
sjoko2 said:
The reason why some of us "so called pro's hang out in a home recording site" is that some of us so called pro's don't mind helping some not so called pro's
On top of that, as a so called pro, you don't know my name, you don't know who I am, you don't know what I've done or what I'm doing, or whom I work with, unless I think it relevant to say so.
Still think I'd do it to be a big fish in a small pond? Or, just perhaps, if that was the case wouldn't I use my real name?
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You raise the exact questions I wanted to ask. Why don't you tell us who you are, or who you've worked with so we can grovel at your feet? Personally, I don't give a rats ass if you're George Martin, because your attitude reveals the fact that you are not interested in helping amatuer recording musicians/engineers. Don't get me wrong, my post wasn't solely about you, there are too many people here who just want to spread their "Big Me-little you" attitude around. A good teacher would never make a student feel like an idiot. A good teacher always says "There are no dumb questions". I guess thats your choice to belittle Royston and you have every right to do so. You humiliated a fellow human being in public, and you did a very good job of it. I certainly hope you engineer as good as you put people down. I guess when you're famous and well known around the music world, you tend to get that way after awhile, huh...big city livin' the Vida Loca? I'll take a guess and say that maybe you are Ricky Martin's engineer?? Britney Spears??? N'SYNC?? Maybe Aerosmith wrote that new song about some of you...JADED????
And yes, I DO think you like being a big fish in a little pond.

I found this site interesting at first, but it grows old listening to people spout about how great they are and dropping names instead of trying to help those who need it. Or how you can't possibly get a good result from a Mackie or an SM57 on vocals etc. The bottom line should be "how can I get the most out of the equipment I have". Because in a world very, very far away from yours, people don't have, and are never going to have access to Neve's and Nuemann's, Pultecs and Manleys. Think of us as the THIRD WORLD of recording, sitting at our Mackies with out tummies bulging out. We don't want to be stars, just make good music. We don't care about commercialism, fortune and fame. We don't want to be cynical of fellow musicians. WE DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN YOUR WORLD.
Emeric has been one of the only people here who has given me some real help with my problems, and without a single speck of EGO. I probably need to find a " Home Recorders who don't know diddly shit and aren't worthy" forum to go to. Thank you immensely for ruining what was a good forum for learning, I'm sure you people have run off quite a few people in the past, as I'm sure they weren't WORTHY of being here with your golden ears and ego's anyway. Have a good life and say hello to Ricky for me.
 
RockinRobert said:


I found this site interesting at first, but it grows old listening to people spout about how great they are and dropping names instead of trying to help those who need it. Or how you can't possibly get a good result from a Mackie or an SM57 on vocals etc. The bottom line should be "how can I get the most out of the equipment I have". Because in a world very, very far away from yours, people don't have, and are never going to have access to Neve's and Nuemann's, Pultecs and Manleys. Think of us as the THIRD WORLD of recording, sitting at our Mackies with out tummies bulging out. We don't want to be stars, just make good music. We don't care about commercialism, fortune and fame. We don't want to be cynical of fellow musicians. WE DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN YOUR WORLD.
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I wouldn't speak for all the people on the board here.
Use a bit less of "us" and "we".

It seems to me that quite a few people would Love to become stars here, as well as some that spend a lot of money on gear that even some big studios cant afford.

If I can remember in the past week I have seen posts on
Avalon stuff and another guy who is running his kick through a Telefunken pre. I saw at least one guy using a Pro Tools TDM and another interested in buying a $4500 mixer. One guy using a Amek, and a guy who is in love with his new Neumann 147 mic.
All different people different posts.

Being here since July 1999, I can tell you that the gear has gotten better for quite a few and some of the
recordings as well.
 
Hi Royston,

I'll tell you what.....If you have some great songs,
money is no object. You just need to get them
to the ears of the right people, even if you record
them on a Sony Walkman cassette. A good song dosn't
need a quality recording to convince the A&R people.
they can spot a gem when they hear it (most often).
- From there, they will pay the bill for you. Of course
you sell your soul and songs to them, but your recording
bill will be paid. - Is it worth it to ya ????

Chuck
 
wow chuck, where do you find A&R people like that? Let me think, think, think............ Oh yeah, I think I once knew one of those people in A&R, a long long time ago. Good guy - he got fired.
 
Where do you find A&R people that
give you honest service ???

"TAXI" is a very respected A&R group.
Many independents have made it
with them. They also evaluate your
music for a small fee. Expect to get your
feelings hurt a few times. If you want to
sell your soul to the music industry, do
it through TAXI - they have the connections
to the largest labels.

You can find their link on my web page. The way
it works is like this: You get weekly classified ads
displaying exactly what they are looking for in
each catagory (styles)of music. When you see
something that suits you, you submit one of your
songs. If they like it, they buy it or sign you.

http://www.chuckschwandt.com

Chuck:)
 
Wow, some of the people here are really mean.

When I was a kid, I wanted to learn to play piano more than anything. But my family couldn't afford even a cheap piano much less music lessons. I would have liked to join the school band, but only the kids who had parents who could afford the equipment were eligible to do that. I think the government should be more involved in funding musical academics and that it should start in the school system. And not just the gov but also private donations from people who have made it big in music. It seems to me that they would want to help.

I never got those lessons, but I fought my way through college while raising a family, got a job and finally bought a keyboard. I learned to play by ear and now play in a band. But, I have to wonder what I could be capable of if i had been able to start young and had professional training.

Oh well, I'm not asking for handouts and I don't think the guy who posted the original question was either. Any way, have you ever tried to apply for a grant. It's WORK. lol. I have written grant requests as a part of my job duties and gotten hundreds of thousands of dollars for the community college i worked for. But, you practically have to write a book and work hard at proving that the money you get is worth the grantors investment.

Be careful about casting stones at 'dumb questions' because you never know who will be calling you dumb next.
 
reply to Langleyt

Hi Langleyt,

Yesssss, I've noticed how people are sometimes
very hard in their comments. I've found the best
response is kindness, in spite of what they may
say; it comes from the bible: "a kind word turns
away wrath". When we are kind, it is interesting
to watch their next reply. Try it. - Bottom line, I
would rather make an impact within kindness, it
has a lasting reward....

I know it is difficult to find funds sometimes to do
the things we would like musically. Just do your
best when ever you do it. If you really love your
music, and enjoy coming up with new stuff, then
you have the best part inside you. What happens
as a result is just an add on. I hope that makes
sense?

Best wishes to ya,
Chuck
:)
 
Kindness is a good thing, but without reality its missleading mindfuck
 
Hi sjoko2,

Nice to hear from ya. I appreciate
your comment.

Chuck:)
 
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