I still spin the old black records - anyone else?

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There is something mysterious and captivating about a disk rotating on a platter, with a needle picking up a huge range of frequencies hidden in a groove direct mechanical action and friction amplified into music. Forcing us to participate in the care and maintanence of the disk and storing it and having a lot of room for graphics and words. Some crackle and pop, but more living and closer to a live performance where it's never quiet either....
 
Yep, I know exactly what you mean

I just recently replaced my old turntable so I could listen to my records. Just like you said, I like caring for the records and taking them out to play then putting them carefully back in their cover. Makes the music seem more special.

Erich
 
my vinyl is precious to me....i just need a record player then i'm all set....

my most precious is my Ohgr transparent vinyl....*drool* oh man...that one never get's played though...oh man do i love ohgr....and it's transparent which is way cooler than black vinyl...which is a hard thing to be...




oh yeah!
 
I still own several hundred albums and have two turn tables with a couple of extra "needles" (to hopefully assure I will be able to continue to play them). I agree that something about carefully taking a record out of it's jacket and carefully placing the arm of the turntable on that first groove feels so right.

However, I have copied many of my albums, the ones that are out of print, to CD, with selective use of software to reduce the pops & hisses (and likely will go from CD to some other "hard drive format").

Thankfully the whole hip-hop DJ thnig brought back the use of turn tables - back in the late 80's I had a hard time finding turntables, stylises, etc. However, I fear someday we won't be able to play records - other tchnologies will completely eliminate the turntable.
 
The sound of vinyl albums is the sound of shit in the ears,..

but somehow it's comforting to hear shit in our ears. It's a paradox.

Anything that sounds too pure and hyped is not natural. Vinyl albums are not that. They are the grunge, the grit, the physical morphing of defects into sounds, like listening to your tire treads on the roadway. It's just cool!

I love those 12"x12" album covers, and especially the "gatefold" double albums. Led Zeppelin 4 always made a great surface to sift an ounce of your finest herb. Try that on a CD cover!:confused: Ah, those were the days!! :eek:
 
A Reel Person said:
but somehow it's comforting to hear shit in our ears. It's a paradox.

Anything that sounds too pure and hyped is not natural. Vinyl albums are not that. They are the grunge, the grit, the physical morphing of defects into sounds, like listening to your tire treads on the roadway. It's just cool!

I love those 12"x12" album covers, and especially the "gatefold" double albums. Led Zeppelin 4 always made a great surface to sift an ounce of your finest herb. Try that on a CD cover!:confused: Ah, those were the days!! :eek:

I strongly disagree, I still buy new wax and listen to it on studio monitors......compared to cds, often times vinyl still sounds better. Shit? No way ...vinyl will never die as long as I have my three turn-tables.
 
junplugged said:
There is something mysterious and captivating about a disk rotating on a platter, with a needle picking up a huge range of frequencies hidden in a groove direct mechanical action and friction amplified into music. Forcing us to participate in the care and maintanence of the disk and storing it and having a lot of room for graphics and words. Some crackle and pop, but more living and closer to a live performance where it's never quiet either....

Watching paint dry can be just as mysterious. I still get the shivers when I do it.
 
Well, just to provide a countervoice here, nope, not me. :D
 
i was a DJ at my college radio station and we had a ton of cool records. i would bust out all my favorite classic rock albums. the one that sticks out the most is the beatles sgt. pepper. it sounded so much richer on vinyl than in any other format i've heard. i've grown up in the CD generation so i never got to start a collection of my own or anything. but vinyl does rock
 
Will it disappear one day....???

Vinyl???

I tend to tread it like this:

Any music which was brought out on vinly in the first place I would like to own on vinyl as you will not get that remastered digital sound which was not there originally.

Now some response to some of you:

Mikeh "Someday we won't be able to play records as other tech. will completely eliminate the turntable".............Well perhaps but I think it will be more like this: It will still be around, but it will get more and more expansive, so most folks would just go for the cd rather than the old LP.

Think of it like this: How do people listen to music these days?, what format?, what kind of machine/player? ect. The younger ones among us download on the internet, for them having the cover of the cd is not really an issue as the music may be all what matters. Then there are the people who buy cds and listen to them on their pc. or homestereo our car. The hippest among us may even use an Ipod. You see all these things do the same thing----being able to listen to music-----but it does it in a different way, and has a different feel to it as well [you can easily skip tracks on a cd player, you may even want to programme the thing, try that with a turntable and an LP....]

I think manufactorers will try to please all of us as they can make money with it, but yes you may have to pay a lot more for your LP's and turntable, also you will get less choise as which model turntable you may like.

Now to A Reel Person who wrote about artwork and "gatefolds"

Yes this is so true, the artwork on cds does not really match the kind of thing people were going for on the old LP's but perhaps all of this has to do with time and the amount of stuff we buy these days:

In the past you may have bought on LP once every week [as that may have been all you could ever afford], and may have played it nearly every day, you may have looked at the cover all the time, read all the info ect. These days people buy cd's by the truckload, they may download the tracks on their Ipod, so reading all the info on the cd-booklet? Well forget it eh? Simply not enough time anymore..................................Well I know some of us still take the time for these things, at least I do, but it may be because we care for music and therefore treat it slightly in a different way.

Now to Thane1200 who wrote among all things: " Often vinyl still sounds better..............." Well I am not going to take this out of its context so..................In a way I agree, or perhaps I should say: "Vinly sounds different, more darker, warmer" but I would also like to add, cd players become better and better, and how people record the cds changes as well. In the early 80s when recording in the digital format was relatively new, people went overboard with all the possibilities : Make it as bright as possible, with the result that some of these albums may sound to sterile to our ears today. But get into the 90s when people had been using the digital gear for nearly ten years a different attitiude seemed to appear: Make the recordings more sound like the old vinyl..........................

So with the new cd players I feel some of them do sound warm, yes not as a turntable, but certainly better that the early cd players.

So all in all I feel both cd's and vinyl has its place and I do enjoy both formats and can see both its advantages and disadvanges. Oh yesterday an LP slipped through my fingers, just a little accident, if it was a cd I would't have noticed it, now, as it is, I have added a little extra tick to the rhythmsection :D Well there is not much I can do about it eh?

Cheers,

Eddie
 
junplugged said:
There is something mysterious and captivating about a disk rotating on a platter, with a needle picking up a huge range of frequencies hidden in a groove direct mechanical action and friction amplified into music. Forcing us to participate in the care and maintanence of the disk and storing it and having a lot of room for graphics and words. Some crackle and pop, but more living and closer to a live performance where it's never quiet either....


Oh man j, beautiful thread!

I own 7 CRATES of albums ranging from Disco-Jazz-R&B-Rock you name it!!
I spin then on 2 Technic SL3200 turntables that I bought back in 1978 (direct drives) and the only thing I have changed is the cartridges!
To me, the crackle & pop of vinyl playing on a turntable makes it even sound better!!
 
I love vinyl albums! I have hundreds!

I still have the ol'turntable up there, and it still gets a spin now & then. There still are a couple obscure titles I have on LP and not CD. I used to have a couple older albums that would be more collectible these days.

I have an 80's techy Technics SLT-6 straight line tracking TT with 10 programmable memory that used optics to guide the auto-program needle-drops! Ooh, so techy for the time! Since all the bands on an LP are a bit eccentric, it worked okay, but my manual cues were mostly flawless!

!!!!!!!!!! :eek:
 
I still love my vinyl LP's and 45's. I've got something like 1500 LP's and a few hundred singles, and I'm always on the lookout for more. Yard sales and thrift stores are great for finding cheap treasures. Not too long ago I was able to complete my Angel collection when I found a copy of "Helluva Band" at a yard sale. $1 and it was near mint!
 
OMG, "Angel". I remeber them! I had one of their records! It was one of my records that someone stole, long ago! :eek:
 
yup got about a couple hundred vinyls around, and a trusty Acoustic Research belt drive, hmm maybe a should get a extra belt for just in case.

I 've got a special white vinyl Tony Carey and a few reds.. How about them pictured LP's. :D
 
The world is shrinking...

I love those 12"x12" album covers, and especially the "gatefold" double albums. Led Zeppelin 4 always made a great surface to sift an ounce of your finest herb. Try that on a CD cover!:confused: Ah, those were the days!! :eek:[/QUOTE]

But, today you're lucky to be sifting an eighth of an ounce, at four (forty?) times the price, so the CD cover might have enough room...

JB
 
I guess I am from the digi generation then, I'm 20. I mostly listen to punk, and am trying to get some of the old vinyls. Dad reckons they sound better than CDs, to an extent I agree. They are different, there is something special about playing a vinyl that CDs and computer music can't match. I am a person who buys my music (CDs) as opposed to leeching gigabytes of data from the net. I usually end up buying albums I know I will like, and I can say that I can still listen to just about every CD I have bought in the last 8 years today. I hope I will never be forced to purchase an mp3 - I mean we go to all the trouble to make music sound as good as we can. It gets put onto CD, someone designs some cool cover art and somebody writes the text that I read on the bus on the way home before I hear the album.

Or it gets converted into a crappy sounding mp3 and downloaded in under a minute, and the magic is gone. I think theres more to it than anything 160kbit/second can provide.
 
Still Spinnin' the Vinyl . . . altho

I still spin my vinyl , yet , I don't spin it to listen to it. I have over 1800 lp's and growing. I find that I like the the ease of having 80 minutes of music at my beck and call.
For me, vinyl will allways have a warmer, richer sound than the didgital domain, with that said, I transfer my vinyl to my computer ( normally at 24/96 ) and do what cleaning I feel is needed, then it's save in a hard drive that's set just as my music library. ( files are dithered down to 16/44.1 , saved as wave files)
With free programs like " Winamp" , I listen to music more often than not, simply because of the ease of listening to what I like. With Winamp, there's a feature to play back in continious mode , or random mode , I use both.
So far I have almost 2400 songs loaded on ther h/d , and when hitting the
random mode , it could anyone's guess what will be played , but it's better than FM radio, for 85 % percent of this music ISN'T over played, as a matter of choice, most of it is considered " Obsure " by main stream listeners .
I will keep my vinyl stored , and , hopefully , it will outlast me , due to the
fact that it's hardly played. . . just the way I do " My Thing " :rolleyes:

PS . . . I have my soundcard set up to send the music from the computer to my Home Theater amp via a optical tos link, and it will play my audio files that I leave in 24/96 format . . . talk about a sweet sound , however files are some what large.
 
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