I retracked, so therefore I'm damned

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I tried to retrack this part like 3 times with the guy who sung the part and I get the same damn thing. At 1:02 his voice does a total switcharoo, and goes back at 1:26. If no one has any suggestions, I'll leave it as is, but it does sound a tad odd, if I may say so myself.

PS. Thanks Cloneboy, I was leaning a tad towards the lazy side.

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I't not sure exactly what you're hearing in that exact time frams, as there seems to be some wandering of the vocals (not just simple pan) all over the recording. I'm not sure what's intentional and what's "switcheroo".

However, I'll take a blind stab at suggesting that it sounds like there may be some phase issues, perhaps? Not only with the "wandering", but it sounds like during at least part of the section you refer to has been "weakened" somewhat, perhapse by some phase cancellations or phase discrepencies between some of the overs.

Just a blind stab.

G.
 
Listen for the "pile of lard" at 1:02, and he can't make his voice sound like the first part. Then later on, at "cuz I can no longer stay" at 1:26 it switches back. In my other post about this problem, I said it was 2 takes, but it wasn't. No bullshit, his voice always does that at the same point on every take. No offense, but you lost me with the whole "phase" definition. I'm still only 2 years into professional production. Thank you for the advice, but it's still a tad over my head. I just can't figure out what to do.
 
Well, I just gave it another listen. I'm still not sure, but it sounds like you might be referring to the fact that during that middle stretch he's just a bit more "sing-songy" in his alliteration whereas before and after that he has a bit more of a staccatto, machine gun type of delivery. Is that what you're talking about?

If so, you *might* try to fake the staccatto delivery by throwing a few milliseconds of muting inbetween the words during that verse, but I wouldn't imagine the results would be all that much "better" on a quality scale, just different.

Other than that, there's nothing much you can do about that except point it out to him and ask him if he's OK with that take. If not, he'd have to re-do it. It's not a fault of your equipment or your engineering, it's his performance; he recites that verse slightly differently.

And forget what I said about phase. I made a assumption the first time around that you had multiple overdubs of vocals going on there (a traditional hip hop technique), and thought maybe one of the tracks was out of phase with the others. If you're not sure just what that means, let's save that for another thread, because that's a whole 'nother conversation altogether. ;) But for now, as I listen again, I think you're talking about the vocal delivery itself as I described above, and that is totally unrelated.

Am I even close here or am I still missing the side of the barn? :)

G.
 
Could I attempt to change the phasing to suit the song? I don't think it's as much of an delivery problem as it is a total change of the voice timbre. This take might have been pieced together come to think about it, but I the change in timbre sticks through a lot of the verse. I'm just can't put my finger on the difference between the parts.

PS. Thanks for everything in regards to this thread. When it's totally finished, it really will be a kick-ass song.
 
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