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Sanjanjoseph
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seriously, who does?
Just start playing "Stairway To Heaven", they won't pretend you're not there anymore!Sanjanjoseph said:...they were all tryin to rush me into buying... but any store would do that...either that or pretend your not there
See my last post in the hater thread....EdWonbass said:Both of the GC in my area have a suck ass bass dept. Every bass I played was poorly set up and had dead strings on them. How can you know if you want to buy a bass when you go to try it out and it plays like shit. I played a Bongo bass that had action so high you could drive a truck between the strings and the neck. I would rather take my chances buying online and returning it if I don't like.
Rokket said:Just start playing "Stairway To Heaven", they won't pretend you're not there anymore!![]()
There is the exact same sign in a store around here.snipeguy said:![]()
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There is a music store in in this area that has a huge sign that reads:
Songs Not Allowed To Be Played In This Store:
1. Stairway To Heaven
2. Sweet Home Alabama
3. (etc. etc.)
That's total BS.Rokket said:I found out through a friend of mine who worked there that they get flawed guitars so they can sell them cheaper.
I am only telling what he told me. Actually the word he used was "imperfections".bongolation said:That's total BS.
If you think about it for a minute, you can see why it's not only false, but impossible.
It's still impossible. Think about it: It's the largest retailer in the country and sells an immense percentage of the total output of the companies whose gear they carry, in some cases virtually all. You simply can't produce that many "seconds" on demand for a single buyer of that capacity.Rokket said:I am only telling what he told me. Actually the word he used was "imperfections".
I agree with you there, that it would be impossible for a company to know where their guitars are going, and I don't mean to imply that all the guitars at GC are imperfect, only that they do carry them. I was looking at a $1,400 PRS when he told me that. He told me that I could get a Jackson that had some imperfections in it for about $400, and noted that there were a lot of guitars in the store that had imperfections, and that's why they are cheap. He told me that a lot of music stores (he worked in quite a few, and was the resident guitar teacher at the one in San Diego at the time) turned away guitars with imperfections, but GC didn't. He also said that it was policy to let the customers know that the guitar they were buying had these imperfections, and a lot of them that I saw at the time had it on the tags.bongolation said:It's still impossible. Think about it: It's the largest retailer in the country and sells an immense percentage of the total output of the companies whose gear they carry, in some cases virtually all. You simply can't produce that many "seconds" on demand for a single buyer of that capacity.
The only part of this that may be true is that I know that GC doesn't seem to ever send back bad product, they just keep it around and eventually sell it off below cost at a blowout sale. But that's not quite the same thing.
GC does have somewhat unusual arrangements with the manufacturers to get lower wholesale prices, but specifically selling "factory seconds" isn't one of them.
I've discussed this persistent rumor before with a production manager from one of the "giants" and he told me that it's impossible as in most cases there is absolutely no way of telling where their instruments will eventually be going when they leave the factory, though they do special runs of items with distinctive features for certain chains.
Dude! Stop it! I had a mouthful of hot pizza!apl said:I go there for the prices but not for advice.
Yeah, like I say, they never seem to go back. They just blow 'em out.Rokket said:I agree with you there, that it would be impossible for a company to know where their guitars are going, and I don't mean to imply that all the guitars at GC are imperfect, only that they do carry them. [...]
Again, I wasn't implying that all the guitars there were flawed. Only that they did indeed carry guitars with imperfections.
Sanjanjoseph said:i agree, and most of the gc's ive been in only have about 100< guitars in them
come on, if its guitar center then theres gotta be more.
but if you think about it...buying more is a bit unreasonable ya know...
i simply hate guitar searching and buying
part of it is that im picky.....
but yeah, still not much of a fan...they were all tryin to rush me into buying... but any store would do that...either that or pretend your not there
I got a Samick bass from another store for $50 because it fell on the floor and had a huge, ugly gouge out of it near the strap pin on the butt. Played just fine for a few years. I covered the scar up with electrical tape because I didn't want to put any real effort into a basically cheap guitar. No one really noticed it. I finally had to get rid of it when the pickups went out. That's when I went in search of the Dean and ran into Mr. Pimples at GC...bongolation said:Yeah, like I say, they never seem to go back. They just blow 'em out.
Here's a good example: A "quality" single-store retailer's owner has told me that at least 30% of his Gibsons go back for gross defects. GC never has sent back one to my knowledge, even when one (a Les Paul "Special," as I remember) demonstrated that spontaneous head separation you always see discussed, which is about a gross a defect as I can imagine. They just tagged it for $99 and someone bought it for parts.
I believe they may get a certain amount of credit from some of the distributors for bad gear they don't return, but it never goes back.
I've gotten some fantastic deals on some stuff that needed a little work.