i hate your kikc sound.

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Sloan said:
One day I may create a track where the kick is just sampled farts from field recordings done in a nursing home.
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and that my friend....will one day hopefully become the "industry standard sound" in which all others are judged by........
 
They will teach that in recording schools, as if it's always been that way, and will act like the world is ending when someone records in any other way.. and the cycle continues. . . =D
 
I prefer my kick drum to have uhm........ kick?
I have found it is much tougher to get a boomy kick to sit right in the mix though.
 
Yonce N Mild said:
I prefer my kick drum to have uhm........ kick?
I have found it is much tougher to get a boomy kick to sit right in the mix though.
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that's true usually.
i'm not sure boomy is the sound i'm exactly looking for, but the thub/click sound does mix well. i hink that's why it gets so much love, not because anyone thinks it should really sound that way.
 
I don't like a really "clicky" kick, what I do like is an up front and big (but not overly boomy) kick sound, and I think there's a difference between them. For instance the clickiness people talk about is usually achieved with more than just EQ, it's a combination of mic positions (and the click itself is largely a result of the mic near the beater, and type of beater used).. then it's EQ'd and compressed to high hell..

While I like some click, what I prefer is "air".. nice bottom end, nice top end, and the mids where they need to be to define it in the mix. I like it to sound like you're right there in the studio with the band listening over the monitors/phones and the drums are up in your face.. more often than not that feeling is lost somewhere along the line.
 
it depends on what the drummer is playing. natural beefy boomy kiks sound great and all, but if you want definition and you want to hear all the fancy crap mr happy feet is doing, you need unnatural clickiness.
 
I record a lot of double bass, and I still don't like a ton of click. An example of it gone to the extreme is some recent Dimmu Borgir...
 
Mount a kick pedal to your dog. You might have to tape a quarter to the beater head and one to the dog if you're looking for a more clicky sound. Otherwise it's all meat.
 
Slam your fist on your desk and that's more or less the sound I usually go for...

-Paul
 
giraffe said:
...but it's a sound born of utility not of love..
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I completely agree.

I absolutely love Devin Townsend's "Terria." Its a great mix, this massive whirling vortex of sound you drown in more than you listen to (I played "Mountain" for one of my roommates and her comment was it wasn't background music to do something else to, but "foreground" music that you listened to simply to listen to, which I think is a pretty fair assessment, especially from a girl who doesn't even listen to metal).

Yet, barring possibly Devin's voice, none of the tracks really sound that good on their own. His drum sound is almost laughably thin (especially the kick, which is very little BUT kick), the guitars aren't bad but a bit fizzy (i mean, he tracked most of this with a stock Stratocaster), and his acoustic tone isn't exactly memorable either. I don't even remember the sound of the bass guitar, which says a lot, and his synths are, well, they're synths.

Yet, sum them all together, douse the whole thing liberally with delay and 'verb, and hit play, and my god is it a massive sounding album, layer upon layer upon layer of music. It's gorgeous...
 
Best metal kick sound (and overall metal drum sound forever) will always (for me) be Becoming The Archetype's Terminate Damnation. The drums are rather loud in the mix, but they sound HUGE. Sound very unique too, and not overproccessed. Give it a listen.
 
fatstrat said:
The first time I heard that was on Metallica's "And Justice For All" album. Did Lars start that? I recall that I didn't care for it too much then either. I like bass drums to *thump* and not *plink*... :)
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I hated that sound from the beginning. It almost seems like they spent so much time on the drum sound and getting it to stand out so prominently in the mix, that they eq'd the bass guitar right out of the mix. You can't really hear it in many of the Metallica albums since then.
 
I'm completely with you guys. I hate how every nowadays either has kick that's weak with no punch and just like..pluhhhhh...pluhhhh......People need defenition and I hate how producers and engineers settle for that sound because it's "in". Check out Lacuna Coil's "Swamped". They're an Italian band, and if they recorded their album Comalies in Italy (I'm not sure if they did or not), then american producers and engineers need to learn a lesson from them dagos. :cool: It's like my ideal kick sound. Tight, punchy, but with lots of bass to it....not just a kick with the high shelf cranked. Sounds awesome, and so does their snare.
 
My prefered kick sound is what I hear on the recent Joe Satriani albums. I think the new trend on clicky bass is because the newer music has mushy guitars from too much gain. Not to mention that the amps that are popular for this style are Rectofiers. Not a tight sounding amp when the gain is cranked. So the click helps to hear where the bass drum is in the mix. I have actually recorded bands that have metal click plates on there bass drum for extreme click. :eek: Yuck!:rolleyes:
 
Myriad_Rocker said:
I'm trying to create a new popular movement where all the kick hits are placed by a dog bark. And not just any dog bark. One with lots of body. You know, one that really cuts through the mix.
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Dont have to look too far, just try the audix K9. No eq needed but if it sounds too snarly, just give it a bit of a kick in the bottom end.
 
L mandrake said:
Dont have to look too far, just try the audix K9. No eq needed but if it sounds too snarly, just give it a bit of a kick in the bottom end.
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Nonsense, mandrake. Just a little grain alcohol and rainwater is all you need to keep the purity of the kick drum's essense. Your discriminator must be malfunctioning.

;) :D

G.
 
SouthSIDE Glen said:
Nonsense, mandrake. Just a little grain alcohol and rainwater is all you need to keep the purity of the kick drum's essense. Your discriminator must be malfunctioning.

;) :D

G.
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yes you are right, the introduction of the over clicky kick is the most diabolical of post war communist plots, now fix me one of those grain alcohol and rainwater drinks and help yourself to one:)
 
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