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The panning knob works to steer the signal to the odd or even busses; 1 &3 are the odd left busses and 2 & 4 are the even right busses. This is how they achieve a 4 buss system with just two assignment buttons on the 200 series mixers. So yeah, if you want to send the signals from 3 mics to one track of tape, you press the 1-2 button down, pan to the left and create a mini sub mix to feed to that track on the tape deck.

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Allen is that the same board you were going to buy before? Not all boards you have to pan. I can't remember if that's the same one. If it is, to go out to record on one or three you pan left, to go out to two or four you pan right. This is only if you have the outs hooked up to the program outs. Not the direct outs.

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sweetbeats said:
You're almost there...think of PGM GROUP faders this way:

PGM 1 is track 1
PGM 2 is track 2
PGM 3 is track 3
PGM 4 is track 4

So whenever you want to send a mixer channel to a particular tape track you depress the appropriate assign switch (1-2 or 3-4) and PAN to the PGM GROUP to which you want to send the signal.

So in your scenario if you want to record mixer channels 1~4 to track 1 of the tape deck then they all need to be assigned to the 1-2 buss and panned fully counter-clockwise. This routes them all to PGM GROUP 1 which comes out of the mixer at the PGM 1 output which is connected (if you did it the way I suggested previously) to LINE IN L1 of the A-3340S, which is track 1.

The PAN knobs on the channel strips are really there just as a way to select PGM 1 or 2, or PGM 3 or 4. The PAN knobs above the PGM GROUP faders are what give you your stereo mix in the MON section...the signals sent to the PGM GROUPS go out their respective jacks at the back right after the fader, but that signal splits at that point (between the fader and the output jack) and also goes to the PAN knob which goes to the L and R master faders which goes to the STEREO jacks at the back and the STEREO source switch in the MON section.

Hope that helps.
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So for the 1st track I would pan all the channels to the left for track one. Then for track two I would pan all the channels to the right.
Then for track 3 and track 4 I would assign the channels im using to the 3-4 button
and pan track 3 to the left and track 4 to the right. is this correct?
So I would use the 1-2 button for the 1st and 2nd track, and I would
use 3-4 for the 3rd and 4th track. Is this correct?

And lets say Ive recorded the 1st track. Its done. The 2nd track I would click the 1-2 button and pan all the channels to the right. Then I would Re-wind the tape. Then switch (from the recorder) the 1st track from NORMAL to SIMUL-SYNC. Then to hear it from the mixer, I would click the FLB button on the MONITOR section of the mixer and click the green TAPE buttons on the channels that have the 'TAPE IN' Rca cables. Is this correct?
 
Allen, can you take a picture of the back to show how you have it wired up? Maybe a closer picture of the front of the mixer too.
 
You got it, so long as you've connected up things the way I talked about...more than one way to skin that cat and just so you understand that my instructions follow the wiring scheme I talked about.
 
I think itll work out! thanks.
Im not home right now though, im in houston.
Tomorrow im going to a bunch of old pawn shops.
So 1st thing I need to get those HOSA cables.
I get back on tuesday, so i'll tell you all how it worked out.
 
Ok well theres a problem because. When I record the 1st and 2nd track
I cannot hear the 2nd track when I SYNC it.

here is how i have it set up


PGM 1 > Line in L1
PGM 2 > Line in R3
PGM 3 > Line in L2
PGM 4 > Line in R4

OUTPUT L1 > Tape in Channel 1
OUTPUT R3 > Tape in Channel 2
OUTPUT L2 > Tape in Channel 3
OUTPUT R4 > Tape in Channel 4


When I record track one I click 1-2 button because I am recording on the 1st track (L1). I pan it FULL to the LEFT.

When I record track 2 I click 1-2 because I am recording on the 2nd track (R3) and I pan it FULL to the RIGHT.

When I record track 3 I click 3-4 because I am recording on the 3rd track
(L2) and I pan it FULL to the LEFT.

When I record track 4 I click 3-4 because I am recording on the 4th track
(R4) and I pan it FULL to the RIGHT.


That is what im doing. What I noticed is...
When I want to hear what I recorded one track 1 I click the GREEN FLB tape button and enable the FLB button on the MONitor section I can hear the tape only. And When I click the STEREO and FLB at the same time I cannot hear the FLB anymore.
So I recorded the 1st two tracks.
When I SYNC both 2 tracks to record the 3rd track, I cannot hear track 2s tape on the FLB switch. ONly track 1. So someone help me out please.
 
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Wait!

Okay...

WHAT jack goes to which track???

I thought the labels were L1, R1, L2, R2...but are they L1, R3, L2, R4???

And what label corresponds to which track? Is it:

L1 = track 1
L2 = track 2
R3 = track 3
R4 = track 4

If so, and my sincere apology, I have misdirected you...

Somebody please help answer the question about which jack goes to which track on the 3340 and I can get a reworked wiring chart up for AllenM...

AllenM, when you playback track 2 (and you can confirm playback because the track 2 VU meter is wiggling away) can you hear the track 2 playback when you hit the TAPE button on any of the channel 1~4 FLB sections?
 
Well sweetbeats I found that the problem isnt with the mixer. Its with the Recorder. The TEAC 3340 has 4 tracks. L1 L2 R3 R4. L2 doesnt work.
L2 records well but when I playback I hear what I recorded in low volume with a TON of noise. I cleaned all the heads and I changed tape. DOn't know what it is. Thought after I cleaned the heads it would work but it didnt do anything.
 
I would just omit the "L" and "R" on the tape deck and just call them 1,2,3 and 4. to prevent confusing it with your mixers panning.

So you should have program outs from the mixer going 1 to 1, 2 to 2, etc...

Unfortunately a common incident with these decks is the simul sync boards crack because where the switches are they easily get hit. If you have a hairline crack in the board it could cause the problem you are having with track 2, or it could just be dirty. Try working the simul sync switch a few times and see if you can get it to record and playback. The sync playback on these is kind of low, normally too.

Also work the input and playback knobs. They could be dirty.


Also, I'm not sure if you said you did, but try going through the mic input in the front and see if that works.
 
Couple of tips too, think odd = left and even = right and then use a consistent color code for your cables, like grey left/odd orange right/even. I don't have a 3340, but I think front would correspond to L (track 1) R (track 2) and Rear to L (track 3) R (track 4.) That is how front and rear were labeled on my old sony quadradial deck, so I'd assume Teac adopted a similar method.

The lefts and rights are going to be in pairs. To be consistent between your board and the 3340 I'd suggest

PGM 1 ---> 3340 Front Left In (Grey)
PGM 2 ---> 3340 Front Right In (Orange)
PGM 3 ---> 3340 Rear Left In (Grey)
PGM 4 ---> 3340 Rear Right In (Orange)

3340 Front Left Out ---> 208 TAPE 1
3340 Front Right Out ---> 208 Tape 2
3340 Rear Left Out ---> 208 TAPE 1
3340 Rear Right Out ---> 208 Tape 2


To record, on the 208 pan 1 left, 2 right, 3 left 4 right.



From the picture it looks like you have some channels cross connected.
 
SteveM said:
I would just omit the "L" and "R" on the tape deck and just call them 1,2,3 and 4. to prevent confusing it with your mixers panning.

So you should have program outs from the mixer going 1 to 1, 2 to 2, etc...

Unfortunately a common incident with these decks is the simul sync boards crack because where the switches are they easily get hit. If you have a hairline crack in the board it could cause the problem you are having with track 2, or it could just be dirty. Try working the simul sync switch a few times and see if you can get it to record and playback. The sync playback on these is kind of low, normally too.

Also work the input and playback knobs. They could be dirty.


Also, I'm not sure if you said you did, but try going through the mic input in the front and see if that works.
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Well the mixer worked fine but everytime I hit track L2 or 2 It would mess up on the mixer. So i thought it was the mixer. Until I tried connecting a mic directly to the recorder. and sure enough its the recorder. The output knob on L2 isnt dirty because I can move it around with out any scratchy noise. It must be the SYNC but ill give it a shot right now.
 
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