I can't get that great tone for lead!

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"Tube warmth" is such a stupid, regurgitated phrase.

I don't even understand the term "warmth", really. Turn the treble down or roll your tone knob back. Instant warmth. Mmmmmm.....cozy!

:p
 
Tube amp with overdrive and maybe a stompbox, I personally like the Marshall stompbox line. Use compression too, it'll give your tone bite.
 
mop93 said:
Tube amp with overdrive and maybe a stompbox, I personally like the Marshall stompbox line. Use compression too, it'll give your tone bite.
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Compression gives you "bite" ?
 
mop93 said:
If you use it right it can.
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I suppose if you had the attack just right, and with some gain. I just don't usually see people use a compressor on a guitar for more bite. I've never viewed a compressor pedal that way.
 
I cant believe no one has said this yet, so I will.

Turn all your knobs to "11"! "for when you need that extra push over the cliff."

sorry.

I always found the right amount of delay and reverb, with a bump in your mid and highs work for me. mids for warmth, and highs for when you want to throw in a pinch harmonic and to make it stick out the mix a little more. Not to mention if your playing solid state, use your front pickup.
 
dimebag used solid state randalls for his tone. behringer makes a tube screamer copy that has good reviews on harmony-central. it supposedly uses a cheaper version of the same chip in the ts 808. i got one for $28 shipped off of ebay, but i haven't gotten a chance to really test it out yet.
 
Does anyone remember the JP22 fellow that used to post on message boards? He was funny as shit.
 
metalhead28 said:
Dude, you are asking a most totally subjective and unanswerable question. If you can't get the sound you want out of your gear change something. If you can't get enough gain, get an overdrive pedal, or get a new amp. Use your head a little. Turn the fucking knobs. Figure out what they do. If one of them doesn't turn far enough....get a pedal.

The tone has alot to do with the amp. Maybe you have the wrong amp. Tone is in the fingers too. Maybe you have the wrong fingers.

I can't believe people look to the internet for advice on how to dial in THEIR OWN AMP. I mean, come on. You're sitting right there with it. You're the one who knows what the knobs do to the sound. You're the one who knows how much gain it has. You're the one who makes the call. Learn what your amp can do and then either address the shortcomings or replace it with one that does what you want. Easy. Have you spent the entire 15 minutes it would take to completely analyze what it is capable of in every configuration? I mean I know that's asking alot, but you should think about it. I can only assume you have never done this.

Set everything in the middle. See what it sounds like. Figure out what you want to be different about it and then turn the fucking knobs. Once you turn one knob to some totally bad-ass position, turn that other fucking knob over there that you didn't think you wanted to fuck with at all and see how it interacts with the first knob. Knobs are like women. You might be getting along just fine with one of them, but if you fuck around with a different one, the first one will treat you completely different. This is just called learning your equipment. No one can possibly do a better job of this than you. Do it.
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Just when I was getting ready to add metalhead28 to my ignore list :p
I read this......tactless, but brutally true.

It's your amp, man.....your knobs.....your guitar......a good solid hour should be enough to acquaint you with every sound your amp can possibly make. IF it aint cuttin it for ya, take your guitar back to the store and try something else. Doing that is waaaaaaaayyy more fun than typing questions on the internet.....
 
It does take a good while to become fully aquainted with an amp. I used the same amp for 10 years, and eventually knew it backwards and forwards. If there was a sound that I wanted, I could dial it in in an instant eventually. I see that as being down to the fact that I got the amp when I was fifteen, and during my teens I had the time to play 8 hours a day.
Then I decided to buy another amp recently. I don't get as much time to play, and I still feel I'm getting aquainted with the amp. Everytime I use it I find yet another tone for the catalogue, so to speak. And when there's a tone in my head, I have to do a bit of fiddling to get it. Eventually I will get to know it just as well. It just takes time.
 
For recording..but anyways isnt that a shitload of possibilities, I have about 5 different cool tones right now. Anyone have a technique for this?
 
myhatbroke said:
For recording..but anyways isnt that a shitload of possibilities, I have about 5 different cool tones right now. Anyone have a technique for this?
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No, but I have a good technique for whacking off. It involves a rockmelon with a hole.
 
myhatbroke said:
I have about 5 different cool tones right now. Anyone have a technique for this?
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The cheap way to do it is with pedals.

The right way to do it is get the sound from the right amp......before you buy it.

Unless, of course, you didn't realize you would be wanting that sound before you bought it. Seriously, the best way to do it is get the right amp and the right cab. If you rely on the amp without the pedals, it will cost more to get an amp that does that sound. Maybe a LOT more..... but it will be the best sound you can get.

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah already.......that's just my opinion, but I'm stickin to it. :D
 
soundchaser59 said:
Just when I was getting ready to add metalhead28 to my ignore list :p
I read this......tactless, but brutally true.
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Tactless? That is total fucking bullshit calling me tactless!

Oh wait.....

Nevermind. :p

:D :D :D :D Just kidding ;)

I try to use tact where it is called for. With Myhatbroke....it isn't. :cool:
 
I don't really go for the ultra-saturated/scooped tone anymore, but back when I did I put the following in front of my amp (which is a Crate Vintage Club 30, not a metal amp at all, but great for the music I do now).

BOSS FZ-2 Hyper Fuzz. This has 3 settings: 1) Vintage Fuzz, 2) Modern Fuzz (tighter, buzzier, Siamese Dreamesque) & 3) Gain Boost.

I used the Gain boost setting. It totally saturated the front end of the dirty channel with gain.

BOSS GE-7 7 Band Graphic Equalizer. I set this to a V setting, with the lowest and highest frequencies pushed all the way up, going down until you get to the middle band, which is all the way down. This got rid off all the mids (like I said, I don't really find much use for this sound anymore) and emphasised the highs and lows, for that metal scooped tone.

Also, this is kinda obvious, but use your bridge pickup. If you're REALLY going for Golden Era of Shred (hair metal) add some chorus. You'll be totally 80s'ed out.
 
I use to have an old solid state Randall RG100 with a sweet carpet finish :cool: I believe it is the same amp that Dimebag used on CFH and TSGTK. While this amp alone gets a very close sound, there is so much more equipment to his sound. I know he used a MXR 6 band eq and some paramatric eq in front of the amp which probably did a good amount of scooping and what not.
 
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